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Old 07-09-2008   #31 (permalink)
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Well like has been said before in this topic, he was likely vapourised by the battle going on. Any remains would've been destroyed. Besides, his motherboard was dead; he was gone.

Mourn him Bulma ;_;
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In the manga we do not see Android 17 again, but does it say he is alive again?

But perhaps it was out of shenlong's abilities to bring 16 back.
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We see #17 giving energy to Goku's Genki-Dama during the Boo arc.
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17 is brought back
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How did 17 come back/get out?
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He was part Human, and was killed by Cell
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Was 16 not made the same as 17?
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Ah yes I remember that now.
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Nope. 16's a full android.
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No, #16 is a fully robotic type. Pure nuts and bolts. #17, #18 and #20 are cyborgs (i.e. humans with mechanical upgrades). Read the title page for chapter 367 (reprinted in the American Shonen Jump as "Android ABC"):



Note that in the Japanese version of this page (chapter 367's title page, which I was too lazy to translate myself), it instead says, regarding #17 and #18: (The base is human)

#20 (Gero), on the other hand, is labeled as: (A human plus machine parts)

VIZ just scrapped those terms and called all three "cyborgs," which doesn't make much of a difference. But #20 is more of an android with a human brain, than a human with mechanical implants, hence the distinction.
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That's cool. Never seen that before. Thanks Chibi.
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Oh I see I see. Cheers Chibi. Interesting how he thought 16 was a failure...
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Probably the gentleness factor.

Interesting that Eighter wasn't a full mech. I'd always assumed he was.
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It took cells from King Cold...you'd wonder if it would of made difference whether Colds cells were used or not <_<
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Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's the only time Toriyama ever drew Dr. Gero as a full human. And it says that #13, #14 and #15 were close to the final product. Remember how those three ended up in one of the movies? :D

And Toriyama even designed them (see: Daizenshuu 6).

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Interesting that Eighter wasn't a full mech. I'd always assumed he was.
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#8 was actually a cyborg. The scars and the Frankenstein monster look didn't tip you guys off?

What about the eating, the crying and the sleeping? :D







Also, for what it's worth, chapter 367's title page (the one that talks about all of Dr. Gero's creations in detail) doesn't explicitly label #8 as a fully robotic type. Although, it doesn't explicitly say that he's a cyborg, either (unlike the sections for #17, 18 and #20). :D
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