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Old 07-08-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Okay so what were the exact lines made when Kuririn (I think) said that line about the Ginyu Force having the same Chi and Gohan's comparison of Trunks' Super Saiyan Chi to Goku's. Viz (I'm looking at you Tyro) and Original (I'm looking at you Chibi) would be appreciated.
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Pretty sure the lines were exactly the same in the jap version.
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And those lines were...?
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Default Re: Same Chi

I think it's "they have the same size chi" and "that's the same size chi as my dad's on Namek"
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I think the Japanese lines are something along the line of: "they have the same chi".
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My scanlation said same Chi, so I am betting thats what the jap version says
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Quoting an old post for the win (and massive repz lawlz):

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Not really. In the Japanese text, it's actual exactly like Kuririn's statement about the Ginyu Force.



"Th-there's no way this can be happening... E-even Vegeta couldn’t lay a finger on that Reacoom guy... And these guys have about the same ki as he did.”

(Notice the mistake that Toriyama made in this picture? Kuririn has the "go" symbol on his back (like Goku's), not the "kame" symbol. lol)




“Wha-what the?! Thi-this ki is…!!!”

“It-it’s my father!!! That’s the same ki that my father had that time [on Namek]!!”

The bolded parts are worded exactly the same in Japanese. And notice what they're freaking out about? Everyone is freaking out about the size/strength of Trunks's ki, and then Gohan says "That's the same ki that my father had that time!!"

From the context, it looks like he's referring to the size as well.



“Whaaaaaaat’re ya talkin’ about~?! I can use the Shunkan Idô, ya know?! If I search for a ki that resembles Piccolo’s, I’ll find the planet where the Namekians are at!”

The bolded part in this line is different than the other two lines.
Herms kind of put up a good point against me in this thread on Daizenshuu EX, but I still stand by my statement that the context makes it look like Gohan is referring to the ki size.
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Much thanks Chibi. *reps*

Edit: I guess not.
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Anyone else notice this?

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.. And these guys have about the same ki as he did.”
That the same ki is bolded, and used as proof that they are the same, when about is not bolded, and changes the meaning somewhat.
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I noticed the word "about" before it so I didn't really care that the bolding was "misleading".
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I was bolding "onaji ki," which is "the same ki." The "about" just means that the three of them don't have the exact same strength, in my opinion. It was irrelevant to the point that I was trying to make, in any case.

And yes, Herms noticed that. See Daizenshuu EX link above.
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E-even Vegeta couldn’t lay a finger on that Reacoom guy... And these guys have about the same ki as he did.”
Ah thus it is true then that recoome,jheese,butta; have about the same ki. But how it's said in about the same, could they actually be weaker in terms of ki; compared to recoome?

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"That's the same ki that my father had that time!!"
So confirmed trunks ssj is the same powerlevel as ssj goku on namek?
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As usual, when it comes to translations, I go with Chibi
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Sorry that I'm late, Zer0. You still want the VIZ translation, yes?

Kuririn: "They have the same ki level as that Reacoom guy...and not even Vegeta could hurt him..."

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Gohan: "I-It's dad!!! That's the same ki as dad had that time!!"
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