How strong was Goku in the beginning of Dragon Ball?

Kaio · 07-05-2008

What would you put him as? I can see him being a lot stronger than an average human because he was trained, some what, by a martial artist, but he didn't exactly annihilate Yamcha, who shouldn't be that much stronger than the average person. So, what do you think?

Pober · 07-05-2008

2 PL...but when? after his birth? or when he has landed on earth? if after land, then i give him 10 PL...

Cableguy15 · 07-05-2008

Begining of series Goku should be at least 30 in my opinion. He took a bullet to the head and threw a 1 ton car.

Yamcha shouldn't be far off either. Using his "Fist of the Wolf Fang", he knocked Goku incredibly hard (Much harder than any normal human could) through 3 stone pillars.

gad_is_here · 07-05-2008

Maybe more than 30. Taking a bullet is no ordinary job

SSJ4 Vegito · 07-06-2008

I'd say Goku should be around 25-30. He was able to take a bullet to the head, without many injuries as a Baby he even had a terrible fall that normally humans wouldn't survive. He also was able to jump pretty high and kick a huge tree stump in half. He also was able to break an Ax over his head and a bunch of other things. I feel he was that strong. Yamcha was no weakling that's for sure and in the Manga Goku's 2nd fight with him was pretty short.

~~louis6578~~ · 07-06-2008

PL 50.

Yamcha isn't a weakling. He punched Goku through some montains.

Kaio · 07-06-2008

I think I agree with the idea of Goku being around 25-30, however, I just can't see Yamcha being twice as stronger as an average human, or a really athletic/ strong human. I can see him getting quit powerful from robbing tons of people, however, he's secure enough to use weapons against random people.

~~louis6578~~ · 07-06-2008

He wanted to get things over with fast. Lets keep in mind that General Blue was physically strong but used weapons.

stefzed54 · 07-06-2008

Pober · 07-06-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cableguy15

Begining of series Goku should be at least 30 in my opinion. He took a bullet to the head and threw a 1 ton car.

Yamcha shouldn't be far off either. Using his "Fist of the Wolf Fang", he knocked Goku incredibly hard (Much harder than any normal human could) through 3 stone pillars.

This car never weigh 1T or around it. This small car was a bit bigger than Kid Goku. And you are giving him 1T?? You know how much is 1T? If this car will weigh ca. 200kg+, it's his maksymum.

When Goku landed on earth, he has only 2PL. After sometime, he could be stronger than farmer 2x...if farmer is 5PL, then Goku will have 10PL. And he already will be 2x stonger than Human. And Yamcha is strong human(2x stronger than old farmer), then they will be equal there, in their first fight.

Shaka of virgo · 07-06-2008

Wolf fang Fist vs Rock cissors paper

Madness · 07-06-2008

Lets not forget that Saiyans seem (on average) more durable than humans. At equal power levels they may be able to take more damage. Or it might simply be Goku himself, being able to take larger amounts of damage than normal.

Shaka of virgo · 07-06-2008

Quote:

This car never weigh 1T or around it. This small car was a bit bigger than Kid Goku. And you are giving him 1T?? You know how much is 1T? If this car will weigh ca. 200kg+, it's his maksymum.

When Goku landed on earth, he has only 2PL. After sometime, he could be stronger than farmer 2x...if farmer is 5PL, then Goku will have 10PL. And he already will be 2x stonger than Human. And Yamcha is strong human(2x stronger than old farmer), then they will be equal there, in their first fight.

DB humans are strong, well not the farmer, but the martial artists, is kind the same in all the mangas.

Pober · 07-06-2008

OKa, but car is smaller than 16 year's old Bulma. Are you give this few tin's weight 1T? And another way...

1) velocity Goku in run on 100m (before training by Master Roshi):
8,5 s / 100m

2) velocity Kuririna in run on 100m (before training by Master Roshi):
10,4s / 100m

European time is better than it on 100m...so Goku at start DBZ can't be much stonger than stark Human.

**Zer0** · 07-06-2008

Dragonball power levels are impossible to calculate so I'm not going to touch that subject.

Power: Goku outclasses like nearly all non-Ki using Martial Artists in physical power.

Taijutsu: Lol, not much to see in this area so idk.

Speed: Goku is definitely faster than the average human but his speed isn't as impressive as his power.

Stamina / Durability: Goku's resistance is above his power taking axes, bullets, and other weapons without more than a complaint and a bruise.

07-05-2008	#1 (permalink)
Kaio (15) Super Namekian Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 439 Rep Power: 8	How strong was Goku in the beginning of Dragon Ball? What would you put him as? I can see him being a lot stronger than an average human because he was trained, some what, by a martial artist, but he didn't exactly annihilate Yamcha, who shouldn't be that much stronger than the average person. So, what do you think?

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Pober (16) Master of Kaio-ken Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 507 Rep Power: 3	Re: How strong was Goku in the beginning of Dragon Ball? 2 PL...but when? after his birth? or when he has landed on earth? if after land, then i give him 10 PL...

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Cableguy15 (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,271 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 26	Re: How strong was Goku in the beginning of Dragon Ball? Begining of series Goku should be at least 30 in my opinion. He took a bullet to the head and threw a 1 ton car. Yamcha shouldn't be far off either. Using his "Fist of the Wolf Fang", he knocked Goku incredibly hard (Much harder than any normal human could) through 3 stone pillars. __________________ Cableguy's Power Levels: Saiyan Saga Cableguy's Power Levels: Namek Cableguy's Power Levels: Freeza Saga

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gad_is_here (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: I go with the naked ladies[;)] Posts: 2,507 Blog Entries: 7 Rep Power: 77	Re: How strong was Goku in the beginning of Dragon Ball? Maybe more than 30. Taking a bullet is no ordinary job __________________ Nobody's perfect and since I'm nobody... Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. Avoid fruits and nuts. You are what you eat. Jim Davis All true wisdom is found on T-shirts. Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

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SSJ4 Vegito (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,482 Rep Power: 138	Re: How strong was Goku in the beginning of Dragon Ball? I'd say Goku should be around 25-30. He was able to take a bullet to the head, without many injuries as a Baby he even had a terrible fall that normally humans wouldn't survive. He also was able to jump pretty high and kick a huge tree stump in half. He also was able to break an Ax over his head and a bunch of other things. I feel he was that strong. Yamcha was no weakling that's for sure and in the Manga Goku's 2nd fight with him was pretty short.

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~~louis6578~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: You know... that one place... Yeah that one. Posts: 853 Rep Power: 0	Re: How strong was Goku in the beginning of Dragon Ball? PL 50. Yamcha isn't a weakling. He punched Goku through some montains.

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Kaio (15) Super Namekian Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 439 Rep Power: 8	Re: How strong was Goku in the beginning of Dragon Ball? I think I agree with the idea of Goku being around 25-30, however, I just can't see Yamcha being twice as stronger as an average human, or a really athletic/ strong human. I can see him getting quit powerful from robbing tons of people, however, he's secure enough to use weapons against random people.

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~~louis6578~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: You know... that one place... Yeah that one. Posts: 853 Rep Power: 0	Re: How strong was Goku in the beginning of Dragon Ball? He wanted to get things over with fast. Lets keep in mind that General Blue was physically strong but used weapons.

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Shaka of virgo (14) Warrior of Namek Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 366 Rep Power: 3	Re: How strong was Goku in the beginning of Dragon Ball? Wolf fang Fist vs Rock cissors paper __________________ Train hard and enjoy life, that is the Muten Roshi way.

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Pober (16) Master of Kaio-ken Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 507 Rep Power: 3	Re: How strong was Goku in the beginning of Dragon Ball? OKa, but car is smaller than 16 year's old Bulma. Are you give this few tin's weight 1T? And another way... 1) velocity Goku in run on 100m (before training by Master Roshi): 8,5 s / 100m 2) velocity Kuririna in run on 100m (before training by Master Roshi): 10,4s / 100m European time is better than it on 100m...so Goku at start DBZ can't be much stonger than stark Human.

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Zer0 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hn, None of your business Posts: 10,193 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 148	Re: How strong was Goku in the beginning of Dragon Ball? Dragonball power levels are impossible to calculate so I'm not going to touch that subject. Power: Goku outclasses like nearly all non-Ki using Martial Artists in physical power. Taijutsu: Lol, not much to see in this area so idk. Speed: Goku is definitely faster than the average human but his speed isn't as impressive as his power. Stamina / Durability: Goku's resistance is above his power taking axes, bullets, and other weapons without more than a complaint and a bruise. __________________ Want a colored username? Then check out the Weekly Naruto & Bleach Caption Contests.