Was Goku using chou kamehameha against Vegeta's Gallic Gun?

Kaio · 07-04-2008

Was he? I doubt it simply because the levels would be way too high, and the blast should have annihilated Vegeta after the struggle. It makes more sense that he wasn't.

Evil Vegeta · 07-04-2008

No, it makes sense that he actually was using it. There would be no reason for Goku to combine a weaker version of his beam with Kaioken if he's going to actually repel Vegeta's attack. The level of power was already enough to blow Vegeta into oblivion, but it didn't.

Goku used it.

Devilz · 07-04-2008

What is a chou kamehameha?

Madness · 07-04-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devilz

What is a chou kamehameha?

A Super Kamehameha.

SSJ4 Vegito · 07-04-2008

@Devilz:Chou Kamehameha is basically a "Super" Kamehameha.

It makes sense that Goku did, however I do believe the reason Vegeta survived was because, he was using the Galick Gun. I simply think whenever your using a special technique your power level itself is raised when your using it, and you release it in the form of a beam, then afterwards your PL goes down but still it makes sense:
1. Goku's "Super" Kamehameha should have killed Piccolo but it didn't and Piccolo was using an attack that gave Goku a run for his money.
2. I doubt Goku on his own could survive a Mouth Blast from Great Ape Vegeta but when he did he also had the Spirit Bomb, so that might have been what kept him alive.

I also believe this is another instance where this happens of course it's just a theory.

Devilz · 07-04-2008

Oh, I only speak English.

Super Kamehameha = Regular Kamehameha

So yes he would be using it.

Kaio · 07-04-2008

A chou kamehameha multiplies the users power by around 2.2 (against Raditz). Goku wouldn't even need to use kaio-ken x4 if he used the same kamehameha as he did against Raditz. So, the kaio-ken x4 would put him at around 32,000; I could see a regular kamehameha being about a 1.25 increase, so 40,000, which makes sense, and is suggested by that one book-thing I'm too lazy to copy and paste the name of. It's possible Goku couldn't use a full powered kamehameha because he was using kaio-ken. It's further evident he didn't use it because he seemed to have an amazing amount of ki left against transformed Vegeta.

Evil Vegeta · 07-04-2008

The same Kame beam that was charged against Raditz, was charged against Vegeta. There's also no reason to believe the same multiplier is in effect for every Kame beam after the Raditz battle.

Madness · 07-04-2008

...I hate you guys

Honestly, it's like multiplier crazy in here!

Deep Thought · 07-04-2008

Depends on how long you think he was charging it. With the Kamehameha beam, the longer you charge it, the more powerful it gets.

Madness · 07-04-2008

Within reason obviously.

GFWspacezilla · 07-04-2008

I stopped using multipliers for the kamehameha completely. It just dosent makes sense that goku, In the 21st strongest under the heavens could make a kame blast Thtas nearly as strong as The great demon kiing picollo.

Kaio · 07-04-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

The same Kame beam that was charged against Raditz, was charged against Vegeta. There's also no reason to believe the same multiplier is in effect for every Kame beam after the Raditz battle.

If it was the same beam, Goku's power level would be in the 70 thousands; that would be ridiculous. Even if Goku wanted to use a full powered one, maybe he didn't have the energy too since most of the energy was being forced to sustain his kaio-ken x3-4 state. It's the only way to explain the lack of power jumping and Vegeta's survival instead of using the plot hole excuse.

Dupe of USSJed · 07-05-2008

Its funny, because the Kamehameha multiplier is an important part of "Why Frieza and Goku were in the hundreds of millions.

**LegendarySSJ7** · 07-05-2008

A Super Kamehameha is basically, as aforementioned by other posters, a more revved up, larger, charged version of the Kamehameha. It's what Goku used at the 23rd Budokai against Piccolo and from what I can garner, he used a Kaio-ken x3-fueled Kamehameha (and x4) against Vegeta's Gyarriku-ho in their beam duel (though Goku seemed to have been straining a bit more, but that might or might not have been due to the Kaio-ken usage). I suppose one can be of their own devices.... I mean, whether one wants to apply the mindset of "Super Kamehameha" to that or not (though I would assume such for such a pivotal and exigent battle).

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Kaio (15) Super Namekian Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 439 Rep Power: 8	Was Goku using chou kamehameha against Vegeta's Gallic Gun? Was he? I doubt it simply because the levels would be way too high, and the blast should have annihilated Vegeta after the struggle. It makes more sense that he wasn't.

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SSJ4 Vegito (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,482 Rep Power: 138	Re: Was Goku using chou kamehameha against Vegeta's Gallic Gun? @Devilz:Chou Kamehameha is basically a "Super" Kamehameha. It makes sense that Goku did, however I do believe the reason Vegeta survived was because, he was using the Galick Gun. I simply think whenever your using a special technique your power level itself is raised when your using it, and you release it in the form of a beam, then afterwards your PL goes down but still it makes sense: 1. Goku's "Super" Kamehameha should have killed Piccolo but it didn't and Piccolo was using an attack that gave Goku a run for his money. 2. I doubt Goku on his own could survive a Mouth Blast from Great Ape Vegeta but when he did he also had the Spirit Bomb, so that might have been what kept him alive. I also believe this is another instance where this happens of course it's just a theory.

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Kaio (15) Super Namekian Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 439 Rep Power: 8	Re: Was Goku using chou kamehameha against Vegeta's Gallic Gun? A chou kamehameha multiplies the users power by around 2.2 (against Raditz). Goku wouldn't even need to use kaio-ken x4 if he used the same kamehameha as he did against Raditz. So, the kaio-ken x4 would put him at around 32,000; I could see a regular kamehameha being about a 1.25 increase, so 40,000, which makes sense, and is suggested by that one book-thing I'm too lazy to copy and paste the name of. It's possible Goku couldn't use a full powered kamehameha because he was using kaio-ken. It's further evident he didn't use it because he seemed to have an amazing amount of ki left against transformed Vegeta.

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LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: LA, CA, USA. Posts: 2,746 Rep Power: 49	Re: Was Goku using chou kamehameha against Vegeta's Gallic Gun? A Super Kamehameha is basically, as aforementioned by other posters, a more revved up, larger, charged version of the Kamehameha. It's what Goku used at the 23rd Budokai against Piccolo and from what I can garner, he used a Kaio-ken x3-fueled Kamehameha (and x4) against Vegeta's Gyarriku-ho in their beam duel (though Goku seemed to have been straining a bit more, but that might or might not have been due to the Kaio-ken usage). I suppose one can be of their own devices.... I mean, whether one wants to apply the mindset of "Super Kamehameha" to that or not (though I would assume such for such a pivotal and exigent battle). __________________