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I've been revising this one for quite some time, and my deadline was July the 1st. I'm not just jumping on the bandwagon of all the pl lists we've seen lately.

Before I post it, a big thank you to Devilz, who's been helping me with it for the last six weeks or so.

Anyhow, here it is! Enjoy.

First Draft: 5/11/07
Final Draft: 1/07/08

Difference Ratios

1.00 - 1.04 = even fight
The fight can go either way.

1.04 - 1.08 = mild advantage in a fistfight
The weaker fighter still has a chance.

1.08 - 1.13 = domination in a fistfight with some effort
The weaker fighter can put up a fight with significant effort.

1.13 - 1.18 = domination in a fistfight with mild effort
The weaker fighter can barely put up a fight.

1.18 - 1.23 = one-hit kill with significant effort
The weaker fighter can’t put up a fight.

1.23 - 1.29 = one-hit kill with some effort
The weaker fighter should run.

1.30 + = one-hit kill with no effort
The weaker fighter is screwed.

Multiplier Reference

SAIYAN ARC

Oozaru: 10x base

FREEZA ARC

Namekian assimilation: A + B x 32

Super Saiyan: 50x base

CELL ARC

Super Saiyan:
- The Future: 40x base (Mirai Gohan), 50x base (Mirai Trunks)
- Arrival of Mirai Trunks: 50x base (Goku, Mirai Trunks)
- Battle with the Androids: 40x base (Goku, Vegeta, Mirai Trunks)
- Vegeta & Trunks vs. Cell: 25x base (Vegeta, Mirai Trunks)
- The Cell Games: 15x base (Vegeta, Mirai Trunks)
- The Last Z-Warrior: 15x base (Mirai Trunks)

Super Saiyan 2nd Grade: 2x Super Saiyan
Super Saiyan 3rd Grade: 2x Super Saiyan 2nd Grade, 4x Super Saiyan

Mastered Super Saiyan: 6.25x base (Goku/ Gohan)

Super Saiyan 2: 12x Super Saiyan, 75x Base (Gohan)

Namekian reunion: Base x 3

BOO ARC

Mastered Super Saiyan:
- 6.25x base (Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Vegetto)
- 12.5x base (Goten, Chibi Trunks, Gotenks)
- 10x base (Goten, Chibi Trunks, Gotenks, after RoSaT training)

Super Saiyan 2:
- 12x Super Saiyan, 75x base (Gohan, Vegeta)
- 10x Super Saiyan, 62.5x base (Goku)
- 2x Super Saiyan, 20x base (Gotenks)

Super Saiyan 3:
- 4x Super Saiyan 2, 40x Super Saiyan, 250x base (Goku)
- 1.5x Super Saiyan 2, 3x Super Saiyan, 30x base (Gotenks)

Fusion Dance: 75x (A suppressed + B x 75)
Potara Fusion: 500x (A + B x 500)

Super Boo's absorption: Super Boo + everyone he has absorbed

Miscellaneous

Piccolo’s weighted clothes hold back 20% of his power.

SAIYAN ARC

Son Goku & Piccolo vs. Raditz

Goku (weighted): 334
Goku (weights off): 416
Goku (Kamehameha): 924
Goku (weakened): 310
Goku (impaled): 1

Piccolo (weighted): 322
Piccolo (weights off): 408
Piccolo (wounded): 340
Piccolo (Makankōsappō, first attempt): 1330
Piccolo (Makankōsappō, second attempt): 1045

Raditz (relaxed): 750
Raditz (warming up): 1000
Raditz (full power): 1200
Raditz (weakened): 500
Raditz (impaled): 1

Gohan: 3
Gohan (upset): 710
Gohan (enraged): 1307
Gohan (drained): 1

The Morning After

Muten Rôshi: 139
Kuririn: 206
Yamcha: 177
Tenshinhan: 250
Piccolo (weighted): 329

Battle with Nappa

Piccolo (suppressed): 1220
Piccolo (full power): 2250

Gohan (relaxed): 981
Gohan (enraged): 2500
Gohan (Masenko): 2800

Kuririn (suppressed): 1083
Kuririn (full power): 1545
Kuririn (Kakusandan, whole): 9600
Kuririn (Kakusandan, split): 1600
Kuririn (Kamehameha): 1950

Yamcha: 1250
Yamcha (Kamehameha): 1350

Tenshinhan: 1800
Tenshinhan (blood loss): 625
Tenshinhan (one-handed Kikôhô): 2500

Chaozu: 1125
Chaozu (Jibaku): 1800

Cultivars: 1200

Nappa (relaxed): 2000
Nappa (powered up): 3000
Nappa (full power & angry): 7200
Nappa (full power & calm): 7800
Nappa (mouth blast): 9000

Vegeta (relaxed): 2700
Vegeta (powered up): 16,800

Goku (suppressed): 5000
Goku (full power): 8175
Goku (Kamehameha): 9450

Goku (Kaiō-Ken): 16,350

Battle with Vegeta

Goku: 8175
Goku (Kaiō-Ken x2): 16,350
Goku (Kaiō-Ken x3): 24,525
Goku (tired post Kaiō-Ken x3) 6750
Goku (Kaiō-Ken x3 Kamehameha): 30,000
Goku (Kaiō-Ken x4 Kamehameha): 36,000
Goku (drained post-Kamehameha): 5400
Goku (drained, Kaiō-Ken): 10,800
Goku (Genki Dama): 150,000
Goku (after dropping the Genki Dama): 150
Goku (paralysed): 2

Vegeta (holding back): 8400
Vegeta (increased effort): 15,000
Vegeta (further increased effort): 16,800
Vegeta (full power): 18,450
Vegeta (injured): 13,500
Vegeta (Gyarikku-Hō): 30,000
Vegeta (post beam duel): 8000
Vegeta (after power ball): 6000
Vegeta (Oozaru): 60,000
Vegeta (weakened post-Oozaru): 5400
Vegeta (hit by Genki Dama): 500
Vegeta (crushed by Oozaru Gohan): 3

Gohan: 981
Gohan (enraged against Vegeta): 4800
Gohan (weakened against Vegeta): 150
Gohan (Oozaru): 1500

Kuririn: 1545
Kuririn (injured): 450
Kuririn (remaining Genki Dama): 8250

Yajirobe: 400

FREEZA ARC

Arrival on Namek

Gohan (suppressed): 250
Gohan (full power): 1485

Kuririn (suppressed): 250
Kuririn (full power): 1545

Vegeta (suppressed): 16,000
Vegeta (full power): 24,000

Freeza’s scouts: 900
Freeza's soldiers: 800-2000

Kiwi: 18,300

Dodoria: 20,325
Zarbon: 21,675

Namek Warriors (suppressed): 1000
Namek Warriors (full power): 3000

Freeza (suppressed): 265,000

Vegeta vs. Zarbon

Vegeta: 24,000
Vegeta (3rd Zenkai): 30,000

Zarbon: 21,675
Zarbon (transformed): 28,500
Zarbon (transformed, weakened): 27,500

Freeza (suppressed): 265,000

Appule: 1500

Kuririn (suppressed): 250
Kuririn (unlocked potential): 7500

Nail (suppressed): 6000

Battles with the Ginyu Force

Gohan (suppressed): 1500
Gohan (unlocked potential): 14,000
Gohan (Zenkai & full power): 32,000

Kuririn (suppressed): 1500
Kuririn (powered up): 13,000
Kuririn (healed & full power): 24,750

Vegeta (suppressed): 7500
Vegeta (full power): 30,000
Vegeta (3rd Zenkai, holding back): 50,000
Vegeta (3rd Zenkai, increased effort): 245,000

Gurd: 6000

Reacoom: 45,000
Reacoom (Eraser Gun): 60,000

Butta: 45,000

Jheece: 45,000
Jheece (Crusher Ball): 54,000

Captain Ginyu (suppressed): 67,500
Captain Ginyu (powered up): 81,000
Captain Ginyu (full power): 120,000
Captain Ginyu (in Goku’s body): 23,000

Goku (suppressed): 5000
Goku (short bursts): 67,500
Goku (powered up): 84,000
Goku (full power): 90,000
Goku (Kaiō-Ken): 180,000

Nail (suppressed): 6000
Nail (full power): 42,000

Freeza (suppressed): 265,000

Battle with Freeza

Freeza (1st form, suppressed): 265,000
Freeza (1st form, full power): 530,000
Freeza (2nd form): 1,060,000
Freeza (2nd form & powered up): 1,200,000
Freeza (2nd form & full power): 1,440,000
Freeza (3rd form): 2,100,000
Freeza (true form): 3,000,000

Vegeta (full power): 490,000
Vegeta (4th Zenkai): 2,325,000

Gohan: 32,000
Gohan (enraged): 1,200,000
Gohan (Zenkai): 108,000
Gohan (enraged, Bakurikimaha): 1,950,000

Kuririn: 25,000

Piccolo (weighted): 6400
Piccolo (weights off, not seen): 8000
Piccolo (fused with Nail & weighted): 1,280,000
Piccolo (fused with Nail, weights off): 1,600,000

Son Goku vs. Freeza

Freeza (warming up): 3,000,000
Freeza (without hands): 3,300,000
Freeza (50% of true power): 72,000,000
Freeza (50%, weakened by the Genki Dama): 60,000,000
Freeza (70% of true power): 100,800,000
Freeza (100% of true power): 144,000,000
Freeza (100%, Chi barrier): 225,000,000
Freeza (100% & strained post-Chi barrier): 125,000,000
Freeza (100% & exhausted): 120,000,000

Goku: 3,000,000
Goku (Kaiō-Ken): 6,000,000
Goku (tiring): 2,700,000
Goku (Kaiō-Ken x10): 27,000,000
Goku (weakened): 2,400,000
Goku (Kaiō-Ken x20): 48,000,000
Goku (Kaiō-Ken x20 Kamehameha): 72,000,000
Goku (drained post Kaiō-Ken x20): 1,200,000
Goku (further injured): 960,000
Goku (Genki Dama): 81,000,000
Goku (exhausted post Genki-Dama): 480,000
Goku (refreshed by transformation): 3,000,000
SSj Goku: 150,000,000
SSj Goku (Kamehameha): 225,000,000
SSj Goku (drained post Kamehameha): 135,000,000
Goku (battle worn): 2,700,000

CELL ARC

The Future

Mirai Gohan: 4,000,000
SSj Mirai Gohan: 160,000,000

Mirai Trunks (14): 72,000
SSj Mirai Trunks: 3,600,000

Mirai Trunks (17): 2,880,000
SSj Mirai Trunks: 144,000,000

Mirai #18: 285,000,000
Mirai #17: 300,000,000

Arrival of Mirai Trunks

Vegeta: 2,835,000

Piccolo (weighted): 2,000,000
Piccolo (weights off, not seen): 2,500,000

Gohan: 99,000

Tenshinhan: 30,000
Kuririn: 27,000
Yamcha: 18,000
Chaozu: 15,000

Freeza (cybernetic enhancements, suppressed): 3,600,000
Freeza (cybernetic enhancements, 100%, never seen): 162,000,000

King Cold (suppressed): 5,000,000
King Cold (full power, never seen): 132,000,000

Mirai Trunks (suppressed): 5
Mirai Trunks (full power): 3,000,000
SSj Mirai Trunks: 150,000,000

Goku: 3,500,000
SSj Goku: 175,000,000

Battle with #19 & #20

Goku: 7,500,000
SSj Goku (full power, not seen): 300,000,000
SSj Goku (heart disease taking effect): 210,000,000
SSj Goku (tiring from heart disease): 150,000,000
SSj Goku (Kamehameha): 165,000,000
SSj Goku (post Kamehameha): 75,000,000
SSj Goku (exhausted): 20,000,000
Goku (extreme heart disease effects): 500,000

Vegeta: 8,000,000
SSj Vegeta: 320,000,000
SSj Vegeta (Chi drained by #19): 225,000,000
SSj Vegeta (Big Bang attack): 345,000,000
SSj Vegeta (exhausted): 75,000,000
Vegeta (exhausted): 1,875,000

Piccolo (weighted & suppressed): 60,000,000
Piccolo (weighted & drained): 5,000,000
Piccolo (weighted & unsuppressed): 144,000,000
Piccolo (weights off, full power): 180,000,000

Gohan: 2,750,000

Tenshinhan: 125,000
Kuririn: 96,000
Yamcha: 48,000

#19: 72,000,000
#19 (Kamehameha absorbed): 87,000,000
#19 (Vegeta’s Chi absorbed): 182,000,000

#20: 90,000,000
#20 (Yamcha’s Chi absorbed): 90,047,990
#20 (Vegeta’s blast absorbed): 95,000,000
#20 (Piccolo’s Chi absorbed): 150,000,000

Battle with #17 & #18

Vegeta: 8,000,000
SSj Vegeta: 320,000,000
SSj Vegeta (tiring): 288,000,000
SSj Vegeta (injured): 200,000,000

Mirai Trunks: 6,000,000
SSj Mirai Trunks: 240,000,000

Piccolo: 180,000,000

Tenshinhan: 125,000
Kuririn: 96,000

#18 (holding back): 336,000,000
#18 (increased effort): 350,000,000
#18 (full effort): 420,000,000

#17: 525,000,000
#16: 720,000,000

Piccolo vs. Cell

Incomplete Cell (suppressed): 200,000,000
Incomplete Cell (full power): 375,000,000
Incomplete Cell (Kamehameha): 450,000,000

Piccolo (weighted & suppressed): 75,000,000
Piccolo (reunited, weighted & suppressed,): 225,000,000
Piccolo (reunited, weighted & powered up): 432,000,000
Piccolo (reunited, weighted, after regenerating): 400,000,000

Vegeta: 8,000,000
Mirai Trunks: 6,000,000

Tenshinhan: 125,000
Kuririn: 96,000

Piccolo vs. the Cyborgs vs. Cell

Piccolo (weights off & full power): 540,000,000
Piccolo (full power & tiring): 500,000,000
Piccolo (exhausted & wounded): 450,000,000
Piccolo (Gekiretsu Kōdan): 600,000,000

#17 (holding back): 480,000,000
#17 (full effort): 525,000,000

Incomplete Cell (suppressed): 500,000,000
Incomplete Cell (full power): 725,000,000

#16: 720,000,000
#16 (Hell’s Flash): 810,000,000

#18: 420,000,000

Vegeta & Mirai Trunks vs. Cell

Semi-Complete Cell: 1,250,000,000
Semi-Complete Cell (full power): 2,000,000,000
Semi-Complete Cell (battered): 1,500,000,000
Complete Cell: 3,750,000,000
Complete Cell (unstable muscle mass): 7,500,000,000

Tenshinhan: 125,000
Tenshinhan (Shin-Kikôhô): 1,500,000,000

Vegeta: 54,000,000
SSj Vegeta: 1,350,000,000
SSj 2nd Grade Vegeta: 2,700,000,000
SSj 2nd Grade Vegeta (Final Flash): 6,000,000,000

Mirai Trunks: 48,000,000
SSj Mirai Trunks: 1,200,000,000
SSj 2nd Grade Mirai Trunks: 2,400,000,000
SSj 3rd Grade Mirai Trunks (75% transformed): 3,600,000,000
SSj 3rd Grade Mirai Trunks (fully transformed): 4,800,000,000

#18: 420,000,000
#16: 720,000,000

The Cell Games

First Match: Mr. Satan vs. Cell

Complete Cell: 3,750,000,000

Mr. Satan: 15

Second Match: Son Goku vs. Cell

Complete Cell (warming up): 3,750,000,000
Complete Cell (40%): 10,800,000,000
Complete Cell (post-regeneration): 4,200,000,000

Goku: 1,600,000,000
SSj Goku (36%): 3,600,000,000
SSj Goku (full power): 10,000,000,000
SSj Goku (Instantaneous Kamehameha): 15,000,000,000
SSj Goku (drained post-Kamehameha): 4,000,000,000
SSj Goku (exhausted): 3,000,000,000

Third Match: Son Gohan vs. Cell

Cell (Complete, 40% of true power): 10,800,000,000

Gohan: 2,000,000,000
SSj Gohan (25% & weighted): 2,000,000,000
SSj Gohan (weights off & full power): 12,500,000,000
SSj Gohan (holding back): 11,250,000,000

Intermission: Z-Fighters vs. Cell Jrs

Cell Jr.: 3,900,000,000

Vegeta: 250,000,000
SSj Vegeta: 3,750,000,000
SSj 2nd Grade Vegeta (not seen): 7,500,000,000

Mirai Trunks: 240,000,000
SSj Mirai Trunks: 3,600,000,000
SSj 2nd Grade Mirai Trunks (not seen): 7,200,000,000
SSj 3rd Grade Mirai Trunks (not seen): 14,400,000,000

Piccolo (weighted): 2,700,000,000
Piccolo (weights off): 3,375,000,000

#16: 720,000,000

Tenshinhan: 125,000
Kuririn: 96,000
Yamcha: 48,000

Third Match resumed: Son Gohan vs. Cell

Complete Cell (100%): 27,000,000,000
Complete Cell (post-regeneration): 22,500,000,000
Complete Cell (200% of remaining power): 45,000,000,000
Semi-Complete Cell: 1,250,000,000
Perfect Cell: 135,000,000,000
Perfect Cell (Kamehameha): 225,000,000,000

SSj2 Gohan: 150,000,000,000
SSj2 Gohan (injured & distressed): 72,000,000,000
SSj2 Gohan (injured, full effort): 125,000,000,000
SSj2 Gohan (Kamehameha, slight effort): 200,000,000,000
SSj2 Gohan (Kamehameha, maximum effort): 270,000,000,000

The Last Z-Warrior

Mirai Trunks: 240,000,000
SSj Mirai Trunks: 3,600,000,000

Mirai #18: 285,000,000
Mirai #17: 300,000,000

Mirai Trunks (3 years later): 300,000,000
SSj Mirai Trunks: 4,500,000,000
SSj 2nd Grade Mirai Trunks (not seen): 9,000,000,000
SSj 3rd Grade Mirai Trunks (not seen): 18,000,000,000

Incomplete Cell (suppressed): 240,000,000
Incomplete Cell (full power): 360,000,000

BOO ARC

The Great Saiyaman

Gohan: 1,500,000,000
SSj Gohan (training with Goten): 4,800,000,000
SSj Gohan (full power): 9,375,000,000

Goten: 380,000,000
SSj Goten: 4,750,000,000

Chibi Trunks: 400,000,000
SSj Chibi Trunks: 5,000,000,000

Vegeta: 1,800,000,000
SSj Vegeta: 11,250,000,000
SSj2 Vegeta (not seen): 135,000,000,000

Piccolo (weighted): 3,360,000,000
Piccolo (weights off, not seen): 4,200,000,000

Kuririn: 80,000
#18: 420,000,000

Videl: 17
Mr. Satan: 12

25th Tenka’ichi Budôkai

Gohan: 1,600,000,000
SSj Gohan: 10,000,000,000
SSj2 Gohan: 120,000,000,000

Goku: 2,880,000,000

Vegeta: 1,920,000,000

Goten: 400,000,000
SSj Goten: 5,000,000,000

Chibi Trunks: 420,000,000
SSj Chibi Trunks: 5,250,000,000

“Mighty Mask”: 375,000,000

Piccolo (weighted): 3,600,000,000
Piccolo (weights off, not seen): 4,500,000,000

Kuririn: 84,000
Yamcha: 40,000

#18: 420,000,000

Kaioshin: 200,000,000
Kibit: 100,000,000

Yamu: 100
Spopovich: 100

Videl: 18
Mr. Satan: 12

Awakening of Majin Boo

Pipi: 17,625
Yakon: 2,640,000,000
Dabra: 10,875,000,000

Vegeta: 1,920,000,000
SSj Vegeta: 12,000,000,000
SSj Vegeta (Majin): 15,000,000,000
SSj2 Vegeta (Majin): 180,000,000,000

Goku: 2,880,000,000
SSj Goku (55%): 9,900,000,000
SSj Goku (full power): 18,000,000,000
SSj2 Goku: 180,000,000,000
SSj3 Goku: 720,000,000,000

Gohan: 1,600,000,000
SSj Gohan: 10,000,000,000
SSj Gohan (Kamehameha): 15,000,000,000

Goten: 400,000,000
SSj Goten: 5,000,000,000

Chibi Trunks: 420,000,000
SSj Chibi Trunks: 5,250,000,000

Kaioshin: 200,000,000
Kibit: 100,000,000

Piccolo (weighted & suppressed): 1,200,000,000
Kuririn: 84,000

Tenshinhan: 180,000
Chaozu: 60,000

Videl: 18
Mr. Satan: 12

Majin Boo: 10,000,000,000
Majin Boo (angry against Dabra): 25,000,000,000
Majin Boo (angry against Majin Vegeta): 100,000,000,000
Majin Boo (enraged against Majin Vegeta): 675,000,000,000
Majin Boo (enraged to the point of fission): 1,020,000,000,000

Mr. Boo: 420,000,000,000
Evil Boo: 600,000,000,000

Gotenks vs. Super Boo

Super Boo (holding back): 1,275,000,000,000
Super Boo (full effort): 2,550,000,000,000

Goten: 400,000,000
SSj Goten: 5,000,000,000

Chibi Trunks: 420,000,000
SSj Chibi Trunks: 5,250,000,000

Gotenks: 60,000,000,000
SSj Gotenks: 750,000,000,000

Goten (Room of Spirit and Time training): 600,000,000
SSj Goten (Room of Spirit and Time training): 6,000,000,000

Chibi Trunks (Room of Spirit and Time training): 600,000,000
SSj Chibi Trunks (Room of Spirit and Time training): 6,000,000,000

Gotenks (Room of Spirit and Time training): 90,000,000,000
SSj Gotenks: 900,000,000,000
SSj2 Gotenks: 1,800,000,000,000
SSj3 Gotenks: 2,700,000,000,000

Piccolo (weighted): 3,600,000,000

Son Gohan vs. Super Boo

Super Boo: 2,550,000,000,000
Super Boo (with SSj3 Gotenks): 5,253,600,000,000

Gohan: 1,600,000,000
Ultimate Gohan (suppressed): 1,800,000,000,000
Ultimate Gohan (full power): 3,600,000,000,000

Tenshinhan: 180,000
Tenshinhan (Shin-Kikôhô): 2,250,000,000

Kaioshin: 200,000,000
Kibit: 100,000,000
Kibitoshin: 120,000,000,000

Goku: 2,880,000,000
SSj3 Goku: 720,000,000,000

Vegetto vs. Super Boo

Super Boo (with Piccolo): 2,554,800,000,000
Super Boo (with Ultimate Gohan): 6,154,800,000,000

Goku: 2,880,000,000
Vegeta: 1,920,000,000

Vegetto: 2,400,000,000,000
SSj Vegetto: 15,000,000,000,000
SSj2 Vegetto (not seen): 150,000,000,000,000
SSj3 Vegetto (not seen): 600,000,000,000,000

Battle with Chibi Boo

Super Boo (with South Kaioshin): 3,000,000,000,000

Chibi Boo: 600,000,000,000
Chibi Boo (Kamehameha): 650,000,000,000

Goku: 2,880,000,000
SSj Goku: 18,000,000,000
SSj3 Goku: 720,000,000,000
SSj3 Goku (Kamehameha): 840,000,000,000
SSj3 Goku (post-Kamehameha): 675,000,000,000
SSj3 Goku (tiring): 640,000,000,000
SSj3 Goku (“real” Kamehameha): 780,000,000,000
SSj3 Goku (drained): 570,000,000,000
Goku (Genki Dama): 1,500,000,000,000

Vegeta: 1,920,000,000
SSj Vegeta: 12,000,000,000
SSj2 Vegeta: 144,000,000,000

Mr. Boo: 420,000,000,000
Mr. Boo (injured): 345,000,000,000
Mr. Boo (exhausted): 250,000,000,000

Mr. Satan: 12

10 Years Later

Gohan: 3,000,000,000,000

Goten: 450,000,000
Trunks: 450,000,000

Goku: 5,400,000,000
SSj Goku (not seen): 33,750,000,000
SSj2 Goku (not seen): 270,000,000,000
SSj3 Goku (not seen): 1,080,000,000,000

Vegeta: 3,600,000,000
SSj Vegeta (not seen): 22,500,000,000
SSj2 Vegeta (not seen): 225,000,000,000

Piccolo (weighted): 7,200,000,000
Piccolo (weights off, not seen): 9,000,000,000

Pan: 50,000,000

Videl: 12
Mr. Satan: 9

Mr. Boo: 420,000,000,000

Kuririn: 60,000
Yamcha: 30,000

Tenshinhan: 300,000
Chaozu: 75,000

Oob: 6
Oob (enraged): 6,000,000,000

Unseen Fusions

Vegetto (Dance): 360,000,000,000
SSj Vegetto: 2,250,000,000,000
SSj2 Vegetto: 22,500,000,000,000
SSj3 Vegetto: 90,000,000,000,000

Gotenks (Potara): 600,000,000,000
SSj Gotenks: 6,000,000,000,000
SSj2 Gotenks: 12,000,000,000,000
SSj3 Gotenks: 18,000,000,000,000

Note: If there are any inconsistencies (like one character having different levels in the same period), it's because it's probably a level from an older revision I forgot to change.

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Nice job! To be honest, I can't really find that many mistakes in it. The only thing you might want to change is King Cold's supposed Full Power, see if he had that kind of power in him (And as far as he knows Trunks only dominated a VERY Suppressed Freiza) I think he would have tried to power up and see how he faired but the instant he saw Freiza (Who didn't show his real power yet) get slain he was scared and he thought the only way he could win was by taking Trunks' sword. Other than that I'd say everything is pretty much fine, or just purely opinionated. By the way are you doing the Movies any time soon?
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Nice job! To be honest, I can't really find that many mistakes in it. The only thing you might want to change is King Cold's supposed Full Power, see if he had that kind of power in him (And as far as he knows Trunks only dominated a VERY Suppressed Freiza) I think he would have tried to power up and see how he faired but the instant he saw Freiza (Who didn't show his real power yet) get slain he was scared and he thought the only way he could win was by taking Trunks' sword. Other than that I'd say everything is pretty much fine, or just purely opinionated. By the way are you doing the Movies any time soon?
That's why I made suppressed King Cold much stronger than suppressed Mecha Freeza. Neither can sense Chi, and Trunks would only need to be 1.2 - 1.25x stronger than Freeza to handle him the way he did. So King Cold woould assume he was a little stronger than SSj Trunks and could handle him with the sword. Besides, they were planning to double-team SSj Goku, so if King Cold was significantly weaker than Freeza, there wouldn't be much point in joining in the battle.

And I'm not doing the movies, it's way too hard to do levels for those. Thanks for the kind words!
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No offence but i dont like this Pl at all .......But here is a tip Try making 17 and 18 closer ..While piccolo was fighting Cell ....16 said that he feels a power that could rival the both of you refering to the two of them wich proves that 17 isnt too far ahead of 18
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No offence but i dont like this Pl at all .......But here is a tip Try making 17 and 18 closer ..While piccolo was fighting Cell ....16 said that he feels a power that could rival the both of you refering to the two of them wich proves that 17 isnt too far ahead of 18
No offence taken. And the problem is that with my list is that I wanted to be consistant with Piccolo's weights multiplier, meaning it's always a 20% reduction.

I suppose I could drop it after his merging with Kami-Sama so he's 450,000,000 powered up with weights, being a 10% reduction due to him becoming much stronger... that brings him up to 1.08x weaker than #17.

The problem is, Imperfect Cell is probably a decent amount weaker than #18... if I change Piccolo, I have to raise Cell.

What else don't you like about it? I welcome constructive criticism.

[EDIT] I could make it: Piccolo: 480, Cell: 420, #18: 450, #17: 525... but would it be okay for #18 to be 1.4x stonger than SSj Vegeta?
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No offence taken. And the problem is that with my list I wanted to be consistant with Piccolo's weights multiplier, meaning it's always a 20% reduction.

I suppose I could drop it after his merging with Kami-Sama so he's 450,000,000 powered up with weights, being a 1.2x increase when throwing them off... that brings him up to 1.16x weaker than #17. He can certainly rival #18 at that point, and he's pretty close to #17.

What else don't you like about it? I welcome constructive criticism.
I understand it but maybe you should lower Piccolos weight Multplier....Because of this Quote it seems that the differnce is small

Here is how i would do it by using some random numbers....
17:220....
18:200...
Piccolo with weights:190....
Piccolo without weights:215.....since at almos at the end of the battel 17 said that he had to get serious so he was a bit stronger

With this Pl Piccolo would be abel to Challenge them and without he would be equal with 17

The difference bettwen 18 and SSJ vegeta Would be okey since i have them around there Myself....


Edit:If it makes all to confusing and you would probably need to change a lot of numbers then dont do it:)
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Btw dont let Cyrax steal you this Pl too
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lawl! I was hacked off when I found out, but I don't really care about that anymore. I don't mind if he borrows my list, I've pinched a few aspects from other people's lists.

I'm always gonna think Piccolo >= #17. Remember, they were even AFTER Piccolo dumped all those massive blasts on him.

Thanks for the suggestions on Piccolo and the Androids! I'll change 'em if other people think I should.
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This is a pretty good list. Even better then your previous one. The only thing I disagree with, is SSJ Mirai Trunks power when he fought Freeza. Now, the Androids kicked the crap out of him, and he was unconscious for about five days I believe.

I think his power should increase with that, and I just see him being above SSJ Goku before he arrived from Yardrat, that is. But all of the multipliers and things seem reasonable, and it's an impressive list.
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This is a pretty good list. Even better then your previous one. The only thing I disagree with, is SSJ Mirai Trunks power when he fought Freeza. Now, the Androids kicked the crap out of him, and he was unconscious for about five days I believe.

I think his power should increase with that, and I just see him being above SSJ Goku before he arrived from Yardrat, that is. But all of the multipliers and things seem reasonable, and it's an impressive list.
Thank you very much!

To be honest, I've never thought about the possibility of Trunks' power increasing from that fight with the Androids. What if I put Trunks' power at around 144 before fighting the Androids and have it increase to 150? I've always taken Gohan's statement of Trunks having the same Chi as Goku on Namek as Toriyama stating their power levels are perfectly even, so I wouldn't put SSj Trunks ahead of SSj Goku on Namek.
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Well, I consider SSJ Mirai Gohan being more powerful then SSJ Goku, and I think SSJ Mirai Trunks is around Gohan's power when he's finished training. That's why I think Trunks should at least be around 160-170,000,000. That's not a great difference, but SSJ Goku was quite weakened, so I think Trunks should be above that.
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