JC#1

I know, I made up random multipliers. Give me any number and it'd work.

Do you remember Nam? He was only like 20 or something away from 100. And why exclude the Z fighters? They have no differences until later on when they train under freaky-mojo-whako-karate-old people like Korin and Kami.

GFWspacezilla

If trunks and goten were half of gokus ssj3 power then they would be stronger than super perfect cell which They most certainly wernt. Your logic makes No sense.

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JC#1

Now I guess it doesn't. You have provided evidence that has been seen in the manga and did not just say "no" or no real reason like Kid_Goku has been doing. Congratulations, you win the "I can argue" award!

Devilz

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Mr-Blonde_139

Sorry to stray from this debate... but I've been thinking about a view I heard on IMDb that said that Fat Boo's power was decreasing when he let out Evil Boo, and I like that idea, so I made some new numbers. Do these look better or worse?

Mr. Boo: 270,000,000,000
Evil Boo: 405,000,000,000
Kid Boo: 540,000,000,000

And I revised my Vegeta battle levels too. How are these?

Goku (tired post Kaiō-Ken x3) 6750
Goku (Kaiō-Ken x3 Kamehameha): 30,000 [and dropping]
Goku (Kaiō-Ken x4 Kamehameha): 36,000 [and dropping]
Goku (drained post-Kamehameha): 2250
Goku (drained, Kaiō-Ken): 4,500
Goku (Genki Dama): 75,000
Goku (after dropping the Genki Dama): 150
Goku (paralysed): 2

Vegeta (holding back): 8400
Vegeta (increased effort): 15,000
Vegeta (further increased effort): 16,800
Vegeta (full power): 18,450
Vegeta (injured): 13,500
Vegeta (Gyarikku-Hō): 30,000
Vegeta (drained post beam duel): 4500
Vegeta (after power ball): 300
Vegeta (Oozaru): 30,000
Vegeta (weakened post-Oozaru): 2700
Vegeta (hit by Genki Dama): 500
Vegeta (crushed by Oozaru Gohan): 3

Gohan: 981
Gohan (enraged against Vegeta): 2500 [and dropping]
Gohan (weakened against Vegeta): 150
Gohan (Oozaru): 1500

Kuririn: 1545
Kuririn (injured): 450
Kuririn (remaining Genki Dama): 3750

You can go back to argueing about SSj3 Goku and SSj Goten/Trunks now :D

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uki1234

Yep, those Vegeta saga pl's sound much better now.

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Kid_Goku

So you needed me to point out that they'd be stronger than SPC just to accept that your random theory was wrong? It didn't take a genius to figure that out.

Secondly, as I pointed out earlier, I didn't need to provide evidence. The evidence was seen in your flawed logic - that being a 2x multiplier from SSJ to SSJ3.

The fact that you folded so easily tells me that you knew you were wrong earlier, but didn't want to acknowledge that I was right.

If you're going to make up random numbers again, then at least make them believable lol.

Chariking

just like to point out that Gotenk's SSJ to SSJ3 PL is only 2x. Agreeing with the thread opener. Unknown what his SSJ2 is. Gotenks and GT Goku normally use their bases. If they are strong, they go SSJ. If they are stronger, that means they are really tough. they immediately go to their SSJ3 forms. If they are weaker, they just pwn them. SSJ2 is the most overlooked and underrated SSJ transformation imo

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stefzed54

Pipi: 17,625

Too low.

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Mr-Blonde_139

20,000 - 25,000 sound better?

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Neon_

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Vegetto vs. Super Boo

Hi i like our list it seems well made, but i got to point something.
Vegetto its 3x less powerful that Super Boo, i don't agree in the fight they seem pretty match to me maybe with some edge Super Boo but not that much.
Correct me if i'm wrong but doest Vegetto turns into ssj2, because in the anime there is lighting in his aura when he goes ssj

Nice work

Devilz

I think he doesn't mind if I answer for him:

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Originally Posted by Neon but doest Vegetto turns into ssj2, because in the anime there is lighting in his aura when he goes ssj

There's sparks during one panel of his transformation also, which doesn't account for anything. Only sparks after a transformation are important, so he's only SSJ.

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Mr-Blonde_139

Ah, that's an easy one. Base Vegetto never fights Gohan Boo in the manga, he goes Super Saiyan straight away. His power level is just a guess. I put him under SSj3 Gotenks 'cause I don't think the Potara is strong enough to make a Saiyan in base stronger than a fused SSj3.

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Neon_

Well i hadnt the oportunity to read the manga,but i hope to do so soon.
Anyway i agree on that.