Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems?

USSJed · 06-25-2008

Behold, yet another list. Spot the ground breaking idea in this one!

Saiyan Saga-See Daizenshuu

Namek Saga-See Daizenshuu

Ginyu Saga-See Daizenshuu

Frieza Saga...

Frieza 1:500,000
Vegeta:500,000
Frieza 2:1,000,000
Gohan:1,200,000
Frieza 2 Mad:1,300,000
Piccolo:1,500,000
Frieza 3:2,500,000
Frieza 4:3,000,000
Vegeta:2,200,000

Goku:3,000,000
Kaokenx10:30,000,000
Kaokenx20:60,000,000
Frieza:3,000,000-60,000,000+

Goku(Super Saiyan + Kaokenx20):150,000,000
3*2.5=7,500,000
.....^Super Saiyan
7,500,000*20=150,000,000
................^Kaokenx20

Android Saga

Goku:4,800,000
Super Saiyan:240,000,000
4,800,000*2.5*20=240,000,000

Vegeta:104,000,000
Super Saiyan:260,000,000
Vegeta is much higher because he trained in 300x gravity!
Or
Vegeta:52,000,000
Super Saiyan:260,000,000
Vegeta is much higher because he trained in 300x gravity! And his SSJ multiplier is x5 because of he is of Royal Blood!

Has anyone ever considered this?

uki1234 · 06-25-2008

This should go in "Lets play a game" topic...

USSJed · 06-25-2008

gad_is_here · 06-25-2008

I agree with uki, cause no one else seems to

USSJed · 06-25-2008

Lol. Can't argue with that reasoning.

gad_is_here · 06-25-2008

Madness · 06-25-2008

So you think that Super Saiyan is combined with Kaio Ken x 20?

No. There's no indication that he was. There's no red aura and none of the physical signs of Kaio Ken.

USSJed · 06-25-2008

Because there was a gold aura duh! Also it explains why Kaoken was never used again after the Frieza saga. I came up with this theory so I can just link to this whenever Uki says "Duhhhh decreasing multiplier is true!!!1"

Madness · 06-25-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by USSJed

Because there was a gold aura duh!

...which is Super Saiyan, not Kaio Ken.

USSJed · 06-25-2008

Super Saiyan could have overcome the Kaoken Aura? Perhaps only Kaoken makes Goku's hair stick up, which explains why Vegeta's hair does not move?

Madness · 06-25-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by USSJed

Super Saiyan could have overcome the Kaoken Aura? Perhaps only Kaoken makes Goku's hair stick up, which explains why Vegeta's hair does not move?

No.

If this had been true we would have seen much more of it. It would have been obvious. You are reading too much into a simple childrens' manga. Accept the simple truth; it is often correct.

USSJed · 06-25-2008

What? The hair of the aura?

Pober · 06-25-2008

You can't use Ssj with Kaio...Vegeta has never used Kaoken...

Quote:

Goku(Super Saiyan + Kaokenx20):150,000,000
3*2.5=7,500,000

Eee...how? Are you thinking, he have only 7,500,000, after turn into Ssj? But how, and why?

gfwspacezilla · 06-25-2008

kaiokenX20 = super saiyan= explode.

**Darkprince410** · 06-25-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by USSJed

Super Saiyan could have overcome the Kaoken Aura? Perhaps only Kaoken makes Goku's hair stick up, which explains why Vegeta's hair does not move?

Then in that case, Goten, Torunkusu (both present day and Mirai), and Gohan as a kid were all using the Kaiou-ken while in their Ssj forms? The only reason that Bejiita's hair didn't move when he transformed from base to Ssj was because his hair was already standing up, so all it did was turn gold.

The Kaiou-ken 20x exerted massive levels of strain on the user, equal to or exceeding the strain level that the Ssj3 form exerts on the user, so there's honestly no way that Gokuu could be using the Kaiou-ken 20x in his Ssj form and not be exhibiting considerable stress on his body (even though the Ssj form reconditions the body to handle stress better than the base form can).

Lastly, I think if he were using some variation of the Kaiou-ken while in his Ssj form, Kaiou-sama would have noticed it immediately and commented about it.

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USSJed (27) Lord Enma Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 5,669 Rep Power: 110	Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems? Behold, yet another list. Spot the ground breaking idea in this one! Saiyan Saga-See Daizenshuu Namek Saga-See Daizenshuu Ginyu Saga-See Daizenshuu Frieza Saga... Frieza 1:500,000 Vegeta:500,000 Frieza 2:1,000,000 Gohan:1,200,000 Frieza 2 Mad:1,300,000 Piccolo:1,500,000 Frieza 3:2,500,000 Frieza 4:3,000,000 Vegeta:2,200,000 Goku:3,000,000 Kaokenx10:30,000,000 Kaokenx20:60,000,000 Frieza:3,000,000-60,000,000+ Goku(Super Saiyan + Kaokenx20):150,000,000 32.5=7,500,000 .....^Super Saiyan* 7,500,00020=150,000,000 ................^Kaokenx20* Android Saga Goku:4,800,000 Super Saiyan:240,000,000 4,800,0002.520=240,000,000 Vegeta:104,000,000 Super Saiyan:260,000,000 Vegeta is much higher because he trained in 300x gravity! Or Vegeta:52,000,000 Super Saiyan:260,000,000 Vegeta is much higher because he trained in 300x gravity! And his SSJ multiplier is x5 because of he is of Royal Blood! Has anyone ever considered this? __________________ USSJed: Thats fair enough, but what if, the NKikoho pushed Cell down through Sheer Force, no 'its a pushing attack that does no damage' or 'it mind controlled Cell to make him crash into the ground', just force.What PL would you give Tien, if Cell was 1,000,000,000 Hero: 100,000,000.

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USSJed (27) Lord Enma Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 5,669 Rep Power: 110	Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems? Why? __________________ USSJed: Thats fair enough, but what if, the NKikoho pushed Cell down through Sheer Force, no 'its a pushing attack that does no damage' or 'it mind controlled Cell to make him crash into the ground', just force.What PL would you give Tien, if Cell was 1,000,000,000 Hero: 100,000,000.

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gad_is_here (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: I go with the naked ladies[;)] Posts: 2,139 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 51	Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems? I agree with uki, cause no one else seems to __________________ Nobody's perfect and since I'm nobody... Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. Avoid fruits and nuts. You are what you eat. Jim Davis All true wisdom is found on T-shirts. Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

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USSJed (27) Lord Enma Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 5,669 Rep Power: 110	Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems? Lol. Can't argue with that reasoning. __________________ USSJed: Thats fair enough, but what if, the NKikoho pushed Cell down through Sheer Force, no 'its a pushing attack that does no damage' or 'it mind controlled Cell to make him crash into the ground', just force.What PL would you give Tien, if Cell was 1,000,000,000 Hero: 100,000,000.

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gad_is_here (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: I go with the naked ladies[;)] Posts: 2,139 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 51	Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems? __________________ Nobody's perfect and since I'm nobody... Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. Avoid fruits and nuts. You are what you eat. Jim Davis All true wisdom is found on T-shirts. Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

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Madness Commander Madness (29) King of Soul Society Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seeing how long I can make this entry, simply for lol reasons. Maybe I can make it stretch to the o- Posts: 9,131 Blog Entries: 9 Rep Power: 163	Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems? So you think that Super Saiyan is combined with Kaio Ken x 20? No. There's no indication that he was. There's no red aura and none of the physical signs of Kaio Ken. __________________

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USSJed (27) Lord Enma Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 5,669 Rep Power: 110	Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems? Because there was a gold aura duh! Also it explains why Kaoken was never used again after the Frieza saga. I came up with this theory so I can just link to this whenever Uki says "Duhhhh decreasing multiplier is true!!!1" __________________ USSJed: Thats fair enough, but what if, the NKikoho pushed Cell down through Sheer Force, no 'its a pushing attack that does no damage' or 'it mind controlled Cell to make him crash into the ground', just force.What PL would you give Tien, if Cell was 1,000,000,000 Hero: 100,000,000.

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USSJed (27) Lord Enma Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 5,669 Rep Power: 110	Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems? Super Saiyan could have overcome the Kaoken Aura? Perhaps only Kaoken makes Goku's hair stick up, which explains why Vegeta's hair does not move? __________________ USSJed: Thats fair enough, but what if, the NKikoho pushed Cell down through Sheer Force, no 'its a pushing attack that does no damage' or 'it mind controlled Cell to make him crash into the ground', just force.What PL would you give Tien, if Cell was 1,000,000,000 Hero: 100,000,000.

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USSJed (27) Lord Enma Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 5,669 Rep Power: 110	Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems? What? The hair of the aura? __________________ USSJed: Thats fair enough, but what if, the NKikoho pushed Cell down through Sheer Force, no 'its a pushing attack that does no damage' or 'it mind controlled Cell to make him crash into the ground', just force.What PL would you give Tien, if Cell was 1,000,000,000 Hero: 100,000,000.

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gfwspacezilla (18) Artificial Human Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: England Posts: 792 Rep Power: 38	Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems? kaiokenX20 = super saiyan= explode. __________________ Registration takes 50 Doctors- The Blubbo's Whale.