Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems? - Page 3

USSJed · 06-26-2008

So Goku used a Kaoken SSJ in the filler huh? What did it look like?

**Darkprince410** · 06-26-2008

His normal golden aura was replaced by the typical Kaiou-ken aura.

USSJed · 06-26-2008

Sounds Kick Ass... that would be a x1000 multiplier would it not?

**Darkprince410** · 06-27-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

Sounds Kick Ass... that would be a x1000 multiplier would it not?

Considering that the punch that Gokuu delivered to Paikuhan while energized by the "Super Kaiou-ken" it probably is between 1.25-1.5x his Ssj form, as Paikuhan took the punch and was thrown back into a small asteroid near the arena, but bounced back out only a couple seconds afterward. If the multiplier was as high as you're suggesting (even if that multiplier was both the Ssj form and the Kaiou-ken), then that punch would have utterly annihilated Paikuhan (would have undoubtedly burst a hole through Paikuhan's body like Ssj2 Gohan in movie 9)

Pober · 06-27-2008

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Originally Posted by Darkprince410

Considering that the punch that Gokuu delivered to Paikuhan while energized by the "Super Kaiou-ken" it probably is between 1.25-1.5x his Ssj form, as Paikuhan took the punch and was thrown back into a small asteroid near the arena, but bounced back out only a couple seconds afterward. If the multiplier was as high as you're suggesting (even if that multiplier was both the Ssj form and the Kaiou-ken), then that punch would have utterly annihilated Paikuhan (would have undoubtedly burst a hole through Paikuhan's body like Ssj2 Gohan in movie 9)

Eee move has only made for fun -.- you could not take from it anything to proof something from DBZ. Anything "Super Kaiou-ken" have no pleace in DBZ...this is 2 another transformation and you can not use them together...

gad_is_here · 06-27-2008

You can use it as proof if you're trying to prove something in a movie

USSJed · 06-27-2008

Excellent, Goku used Kaoken in his SSJ in the anime! I AM CORRECT YET AGAIN MWHAHAHAHA

Madness · 06-27-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

Excellent, Goku used Kaoken in his SSJ in the anime! I AM CORRECT YET AGAIN MWHAHAHAHA

Yet he never did in the canon, so you are wrong.

USSJed · 06-27-2008

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in the anime!

I never said I was right about him using it canonly, just that he used it, and that was in the anime, so I am right.

Madness · 06-27-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

I never said I was right about him using it canonly, just that he used it, and that was in the anime, so I am right.

But in this forum the anime is not canon, so you are wrong.

Also, you were wrong even if we consider the anime, as your hypothesis states only the Goku that faced Freeza. This is shown to be wrong by the anime evidence itself.

So nyah

Pober · 06-27-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

I never said I was right about him using it canonly, just that he used it, and that was in the anime, so I am right.

Anime is anime...is somebody has made for fun Kaoken with Ssj transformation...then ok...you have right...but in normal DBZ, made by Akira Toriyama, it has not pleace...even if it could be make for Goku in normal DBZ...he could not do it, because he has been exhausted.

Deep thought · 06-27-2008

Funny how you think that the Daizenshuu EX forums sucks, USSj, yet they think that this forum is the ghetto of the DBZ forums.

And I have to agree with them. =/

gfwspacezilla · 06-27-2008

anime=non-canon.

USSJed · 06-28-2008

I meantioned the Saiyan, Frieza, and Android Saga's, with emphasis that the SSJ+Kaoken thing extended thru the series, so nyah!

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Funny how you think that the Daizenshuu EX forums sucks, USSj, yet they think that this forum is the ghetto of the DBZ forums.

My experiance with Daizenshuu forum, is that they are too hard set in the current beliefs about the series, and refuse to accept new ideas. That makes it boring as fuck, and also, this forum gets like 10x the views and replies!

Pober · 06-28-2008

What it's mean? You belief, Goku has used Kaoken with Ssj in this three Saga'si in manga, i am right?

06-26-2008	#31 (permalink)
USSJed (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: May 2008 Location: Nuking teh infidelz Posts: 5,378 Rep Power: 89	Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems? So Goku used a Kaoken SSJ in the filler huh? What did it look like? __________________ USSJed: Thats fair enough, but what if, the NKikoho pushed Cell down through Sheer Force, no 'its a pushing attack that does no damage' or 'it mind controlled Cell to make him crash into the ground', just force.What PL would you give Tien, if Cell was 1,000,000,000 Hero: 100,000,000.

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USSJed (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: May 2008 Location: Nuking teh infidelz Posts: 5,378 Rep Power: 89	Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems? Sounds Kick Ass... that would be a x1000 multiplier would it not? __________________ USSJed: Thats fair enough, but what if, the NKikoho pushed Cell down through Sheer Force, no 'its a pushing attack that does no damage' or 'it mind controlled Cell to make him crash into the ground', just force.What PL would you give Tien, if Cell was 1,000,000,000 Hero: 100,000,000.

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gad_is_here (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: I go with the naked ladies[;)] Posts: 2,133 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 48	Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems? You can use it as proof if you're trying to prove something in a movie __________________ Nobody's perfect and since I'm nobody... Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. Avoid fruits and nuts. You are what you eat. Jim Davis All true wisdom is found on T-shirts. Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

06-27-2008	#37 (permalink)
USSJed (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: May 2008 Location: Nuking teh infidelz Posts: 5,378 Rep Power: 89	Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems? Excellent, Goku used Kaoken in his SSJ in the anime! I AM CORRECT YET AGAIN MWHAHAHAHA __________________ USSJed: Thats fair enough, but what if, the NKikoho pushed Cell down through Sheer Force, no 'its a pushing attack that does no damage' or 'it mind controlled Cell to make him crash into the ground', just force.What PL would you give Tien, if Cell was 1,000,000,000 Hero: 100,000,000.

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Deep thought (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: America, vague, huh??? Posts: 1,159 Rep Power: 15	Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems? Funny how you think that the Daizenshuu EX forums sucks, USSj, yet they think that this forum is the ghetto of the DBZ forums. And I have to agree with them. =/ __________________

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Pober (15) Super Namekian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 443 Rep Power: 1	Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems? What it's mean? You belief, Goku has used Kaoken with Ssj in this three Saga'si in manga, i am right?

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