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Old 06-25-2008   #16 (permalink)
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Both are entirely different; one is used in bursts, while the other is a constant power-up. The only time I believe there was a combination of the two, was in movie #4 against Slug. That Gigi SSJ seemed like it to me, but outside of that, never.
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Even that one wasn't really a SSJ
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Old 06-25-2008   #18 (permalink)
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Default Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems?

And in the filler against Pikkon where Goku used a SSJ Kaioken.
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Default Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems?

Goku can barely use Kaioken x20 at BASE, or even hold any Kaioken for a long period of time.

In Super Saiyan?!

He'd be exhausted.
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Default Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems?

I think I wrote a theory like this once. Except I didn't say that anyone was using kaio-ken with super saiyan, but that super sayain was some sort of evolution of kaio-ken.
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SSJ is totally different from Kaioken. However nice ideas. Also why would Goku use Kaioken now that he has Super Saiyan It's better especially when he's got SSJ2 and SSJ3 so why would he use a Technique that is less efficient? That's a pretty good explanation for why he didn't use Kaioken after Freiza.
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Fine, he's not using the Kaoken as an SSJ. I just like to spice the forum up with crazy new ideas, unlike Daizenshuu forum.....
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The problem with this is that everything about DBZ has pretty much already been discussed several times over. Keep in mind how old the series is.
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I know, thats why I consider it my sacred quest to bring new thoughts into the mix.
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I don't think it's possible. Not without sounding like a noob anyways.
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Default Re: Mini PL List, Controversial Ideas ahead! Is SSJ Goku not who he seems?

Of course not...Firstly Goku was exhaust enough, he could not use 20x Kaoken anew. So how he could use Super Saiyan with addon Kaoken?? Like said Madness "I don't think it's possible."
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I will not allow this site to degenerate into another Daizenshuu!
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no. Instead we must become a site full of stupid impossible Ideas.
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Well, I see nothing wrong with expressing your opinion. If its wrong it will be proven so...
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Well, I see nothing wrong with expressing your opinion. If its wrong it will be proven so...
When it's so obviously wrong there might be a slight problem with it =/
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