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Old 06-24-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Default I needed to ask.

Ok, I know Bardock isn't cannon, but for now let's say he is for argument's sake.

Now it was said that Bardock's PL was around 10,000 when he died. Ok, now let's look at the Saiyan Sage with Goku and Nappa. Goku's Power Level was OVER NINE THOOOOOUUUUSSSAAAANNND and Nappa said stated by saying, "No way, Nine thousand? That thing must be broken. There is no way he is stronger than me," that he was not that high.

So, does this mean that Bardock would in fact be stronger than Nappa, if we merged Cannon and non Cannon for this statement?
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Yes. 10,000 is higher than 8,000.

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Default Re: I needed to ask.

Yes, Bardock is stronger then Nappa. I consider the special canon.
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Yes. 10,000 is higher than 8,000
Smart ass. I know basic math, but I'm serious, Bardock was in fact stronger than an Elite. Bardock >>>> Nappa (EAT THAT KAIO)

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Bardock was a regular. Then he got Zenkai's and crap, and exceeded an elite.
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Default Re: I needed to ask.

I was told by some, that Bardock was non cannon due to being in a movie instead of the actual anime.

But yes. This has made my day and ruined Kaio's.
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If Bardock healed from his battle with Dodoria, he would've really been powerful.

Many have suggested Bardock is around 1,000 at the most because they don't believe the special is canon, which is stupid. Freeza wouldn't remember someone that weak, no matter if he looked like Goku or not.
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Fuck yeah.

That would have owned ass.
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He probably would've been around Vegeta at that point, or even better. If Goku could gain that much power, then so can Bardock. I know his fireball would've been more powerful, but Freeza would've still deflected it, though.
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Thats one hell of a punch!
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Default Re: I needed to ask.

Well to answer your question yes, Bardock would be good enough to defeat Nappa. I don't understand why so many people ignore the Special the way they do. I mean if Bardock was around 1,000 why the hell would he manage to get ALL of Freiza's Soldiers out of the ship and why would HE of all people just know about it and charge Freiza (at least the fact that he got alot more powerful in recent days can stand as a reason why he might be confident). That's just me though. I personally would have loved it if Bardock had lived or even met Goku once, I would have liked to see mor character development with him.
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The movie isn't canon.

EDIT: Oh, and Bardock would never be stronger than LSSJ2 Nappa anyway.
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The movie isn't canon.
It could be considered canon, actually. Refer to an old post of mine:

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But did you know that the Burdock special is sort of canon? (By the way, filler isn't the right term here. Filler is the extra scenes added on to the anime to make the episodes longer. Therefore, the movies and TV specials aren't filler. "Non-canon" is a better term.) You see, the Burdock special was created and aired well before Burdock's one panel appearence in the manga. Toriyama even did the original character designs for Burdock and his crew. Toriyama has also been quoted as saying that the TV special was his favorite anime-original story.

Therefore, some people consider the Burdock special to be Burdock's official backstory, even though it didn't appear in the manga, because it was partially created by Toriyama, approved by Toriyama, and even influenced him to later draw Burdock in the manga.

In fact, you'll notice that Toriyama basically copied the anime scene when he drew Burdock in the manga. Even his injuries are the same. Doesn't that imply that Toriyama has accepted everything that happened in the special?






So yeah, that's the end of my rant. Read this page on Daizenshuu EX for more information.
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Default Re: I needed to ask.

bardock would definetly be ablet to beat nappa. He would give king vegeta a hell of a good fight but eventually lose.
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