Remixxx

Sorry but you just need to stop threatning the gravity like something that dont exist at all......Again it was showed that it has affect on Pl not completlly but it has...tHE GRAVITY IS JUST LIKE WEARING weighted clothing .....While goku was on King kais Planet KIng Kai even said that planet Vegetas gravity is WHY the Saiyans are so strong......Then we have Pui Pui saying that Vegeta would be helplees in the 10 gravity "This place is 10X gravity, and I grew up here, you'll be helpless now" wich also tell us tells us if a planet has a certain gravity level, its people will have a certain battle power... There is zero examples that a being of high power level cant handle the gravity that a being of lower powerlevel could just due to lack of experience..... Not one......And Trunks possibly experienced gravity before or at least something like since Bulma mentioned that recently begun training with vegeta who only know to train in the gravity room...

Evil Vegeta

Vegeta just kicked the crap out of Pui-Pui, so he already knew he was weaker then him. The only reason why he thought the 10x would be effective, is because he thought Vegeta would have trouble in it. Dabura or Babi even said his own planet would enhance his chances to win, not that his power would increase.

If Pui-Pui just got pummeled by Vegeta, he knows that Vegeta's power is way higher then his.

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Darkprince410

Gohan indicates that his body feels extremely heavy upon entering the Room of Spirit and Time, which Gokuu states has a level of gravity ten times that of Earth. If battle power had as much of an influence as you suggest, he shouldn't have felt it whatsoever. Bejiita is shown to be under massive duress under 300g, despite the fact that his battle power is in the range of 3,000,000, and Gokuu had mastered 100g training with a battle power of 90,000. If battle power had a major influence as you and Pober suggest, then anyone with a battle power of 270,000 or higher should have no problem with it whatsoever.

Gokuu was shown having incredible difficulty under the 10g of Kaiou-sama's planet despite the fact that he himself had experienced 10g for 4 months in his childhood (as such, being weaker) when he trained in the Room of Spirit and Time. Since he was in there for four months, his body would have grown accustomed to the gravity, so a stronger level of power in adulthood should indicate that he'd have no problem with the same level of gravity. The only explanation for this is that his body had grown so unaccustomed to that gravity level that his higher battle power had no effect on it.

Bejiita's comment to Torunkusu suggests otherwise, as he comments that 150g may be too high for him to handle. If Torunkusu had experienced and had attempted training in that level of gravity before then, Bejiita wouldn't have made a comment like that to him at all.

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Pober

What this 270,000 having to it? Didn't see, if you will able next g level, you needed more strength to able it?

Trunksu was training in Gravity Chamber with Vegeta by the kid, so he has better known, what level(weight) is too much for him -.-

Trunksu in 150g << Goku in 100g, so who is stronger?

You have disagreed gravity, because your's theory already has no sense? ^.-

Raditz The Ruthless

Getting used to gravity has nothing to do with your battle power, it has to do with training under that level of gravity to get used to it. Just because you're power is high, it doesn't necessarily mean that you are used to higher levels of gravity.

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Pober

Have you anything proof on it? or you are shooting without ammo? Why strength is not need to gravitation?

Darkprince410

1) You clearly didn't read what I wrote. If the battle power/gravity relationship worked the way you claim it does, then anyone with a battle power at or over 270,000 should be able to handle 300g without any difficulty whatsoever, since Gokuu was able to master 100g with a power level of 90,000. However, we see that Bejiita has considerable difficulty with 300g, despite the fact that his battle power is in the low millions.

2) Bejiita's comment was directed towards the fact that starting out at 150g with having no gravity training experience beforehand is going to be a strain on his system. It would have been easier for him to start at a lower gravity and build up, since his body would be able to grow accustomed to it quicker.

3) Torunkusu by a good deal, since his battle power was in the upper millions/low ten millions range in his base form.

4) I disagree with your notions because the manga clearly indicates that battle power isn't the determining factor as to what gravity level a character can withstand.

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Remixxx

-first he just said his body felt heavier...Thats it.... because its his FIRST time feeling something above the earth gravitys but he didnt had a single minor problem moving in it....So this proof doenst work he was abel to move easilly...Since he wasnt showed struggling or not being abel to move this exampel DOESNT WORK AT ALL

-Vegeta was showed training in the gravity room and you cant proove that he just entered the gravity room and had problems with it...Or that 300x is the max he was abel to do back then

-Mirai Trunks when he entered the gravity room didnt have any problems moving in it at all and he NEVER EXPERIENCED ANYTHING ABOVE EARTHS GRAVITY

-In the second part i agree maybe he ddint trained before but he wasnt abel to do 150 and as soon as he turned SSJ VOILA he didnt have any problem...So SSJ Trunks is strong enough to handle 150g without gettting used to it all??..... this is a perfect examepl that it has a lot more effect on Pl then that it doesnt

-Then just put here King Kia comment "THAT THE SAIYANS ARE THAT STROGN BECAUSE OF THE GRAVITY" AND THERE YOU HAVE MORE PROOF THAT IT DOES HAVE MORE AFFECT ON THE PL THEN THAT IT DOESNT

-DP one question for you do you belive that a warrior like Freeza wouldnt be abel to move in a gravity like 100x if he entered it for the first time?

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Evil Vegeta

Vegeta asked for a room of 300x gravity to be built, nothin more then that. He only trained in that.

As for you Kaio quote: What about it? Some Saiyans were stated to be very weak, and Raditz was 1,200 while there could be Saiyans lower then that. So I don't understand your point in that quote. I guess that means Bubbles could win against Goku & Piccolo at the beginning of Z because he's been in 10x gravity his whole life, or so it seems.

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Remixxx

You are right on the first one.....But we cant prove that the time he was showed struglling was the first time he entered the Gravity room ..He was probabaly struglling because he was getting tired from all of the training...

No king kai said that the the main reason why they are so strong......And they are warriors who have trained under 10x gravity for MOST of their lives ..... but Bublles (I love this name) is not a warrior and doesnt train and wont get stronger....

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Evil Vegeta

Yes, but that still doesn't answer anything. Kaio said they get their power from 10x gravity, yet, there are Saiyans like Raditz who've been battling their entire lives, and can't get above 1,200 for their maximum. There are even Saiyans likely weaker then himself, since he thought he was so powerful.

Namek warriors were around 3,000 when they battled against Freeza's henchmen, right? The last time I checked, they didn't get any power from 10x gravity, because their planet only had basic gravity. So, again, Kaio's quote isn't much to go on. He even says training on his planet is like 1,000 years of training on earth, which isnt likely for everyone.

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Remixxx

And to answer DP question that i forgott to......Goku child spend only one month in the gravity as a child and still neede to get stronger to move around better in the 10x gravity..And Goku as a child never got strong enough in the Rosta to handle the 10x gravity and put in there extreme amount of air and the high temeperatures where too much for him to hNDLE......and Goku training there as a kid was not mentioned until Cell saga...and its probabaly a plot-device and just because to have an excuse to have Goku know about this room...

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Remixxx

Sorry but i didnt understand it very well....They are saiyans but there are stronger saiyans then Raditz who also trained in the 10x gravity and where a lot stronger then him so it all depend on how much training they did ....

-I need to check that but i belive that you are right....And sorry but could you try to explaint the last part about the namek warriors better to me sorry...

-One question so namek has a gravity of 10x

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Pober

1)You will say, all with 270,000 can able 300g? you need few mln on this g level...

2)Trunks was already training in gravity. And what is "grow accustomed", it hasn't place there...they only grow strength...accustom is another concept...

That mean Trunksu can accustom to 150g, but he can't later change on 160g and try accustomed too :P He can't get stronger that way with accustom...he needed grow up strength, to been stronger and able more weight and gravity level...

But with only grow accustomed, he couldn't take more and he couldn't accustom to level up than 150g...so what you mean, when you will say "grow accustomed"??

If strength hasn't anything action to able highter g level...then somebody with around 270,000 powerlevel could take 500g...but it is impossible ;) from physics point of view :)

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Evil Vegeta

I'm just tryin to say, you have Saiyans that are as strong as Vegeta, and ones that are as weak as Raditz, if not weaker then that. If all of them gained power from 10x gravity, that means, none of them should be much weaker then Vegeta, because they all should gain incredible power from the same gravity.

When they were suppressed to 1,000 at the beginning, they quickly raised their power level to 3,000. What I think I was tryin to say, is that no namek warriors should be above someone like Raditz, because they don't have special gravity on their planet. If Kaio is correct on this, then all of the Saiyans should be above any 3,000 warrior on baisc gravity, since Kaio's quote referred to every kind of Saiyan, not just very powerful ones.

Namek has the same gravity as earth. When Krillin, Gohan, and Bulma felt the gravity, they said it felt just like earth.

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