SSJ4 Vegito

It was 40 tons total (But they were all divided with 1 on each leg and 1 on each arm, each weighing 10 tons but since their were 4 weights of 10 tons total that adds up to 40 tons in all).

Pober

So physics have place there...and this is giving power-limit for base Trunksu. And he is at few millions level...so he is around 10 millions...and he could make more than it in this 10 day's. Everything what i wanted to say.

Darkprince410

The low to mid tens of millions sounds reasonable for his base battle power, with his Ssj battle power in the mid to upper hundred millions (only constituting a reasonable 10-15x battle power increase from base to Ssj)

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JC#1

I think she was using full power. Goten and Trunks are 2 very strong super saiyans, they could definitely beat her.

uki1234

This is ridiculous as the whole gravity argument, which doesn't prove a thing.


SSJ is certainly less than 10-15x in buu saga.

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Pober

OKa then, Gravity Law, and in this law- Effective power and passive, free decrease, friction, work, potential energy and kinetics, force, vital energy, principle of behavior of energy, principle of behavior of shoot, terrestrial acceleration, acoustics, waves and oscillation...and many more...must write i everything?

And another question, if Trunksu and Gotensu was that strong...so you can present me they, Goku and Vegeta powerlevel in Buu saga? I want to compare something.

Darkprince410

One, those laws are never actually stated as appearing in Dragon Ball Z, as was gad_is_here's question, and 99% of those have no evidence of being in in there at all anyhow. The law of gravity is the only one that is remotely shown to be followed in the story, but even it is broken on a day to day basis.

As for Gokuu, Bejiita, and Gohan's battle powers, due to the combined facts of their base forms being established by Dabura as being stronger than Pikkoro, as well as Bejiita's confidence in winning the Budoukai in his base form, despite the fact that he knows that Juuhachigou will be participating, it is likely that their base forms were in the hundred millions range (somewhat, but not excessively, higher than Juuhachigou), with their Ssj battle powers in the low billions.

Uki1234, the way that Ssj multipliers work has never been established, since all we "know" is that later on in DBZ, the Ssj multipliers started decreasing as the base battle powers increased, in order to keep the actual jumps in power from being even more ludicrously high than they already were. Because Goten and Torunkusu didn't have as high a base battle power as their fathers did, their Ssj multiplier would have undoubtedly been somewhat higher than their fathers.

As for the power range I gave them, considering what we see in the manga (aside from the gravity example Pober clings to despite how wrong it is), it is rather accurate.

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Pober

All what i had written up have place in DBZ -.- DBZ is like real world with little fiction.

I agree.

But i didn't know why, you all will give Trunksu, powerlevel the same as Bejiita's from Semi-Perfect Cell.

Devilz

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Remixxx

Gravity has affect on Pl proven when Truns turned in to a SSJ the problems with moving dissapeared.....

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Darkprince410

DBZ is not like the real world, as I already pointed out a couple pages ago that Toriyama didn't follow what was scientifically possible or impossible, but just chose what he wanted to happen because he liked it. That's why you have ships and later people traveling faster than the velocity of light, physically flying under their own power, being able to emit energy from their bodies, and things like that. These things are, by known scientific laws, impossible, yet not only does it happen in DBZ, it happens on a regular basis.

Remixremix, that's because the Ssj form also increases the body's resistance to outside physical forces, which is why he went from being under incredible duress in his base form, to not even feeling it in his Ssj form. The manga establishes that battle power holds little to no influence over the gravity level a character can withstand. Because it was his first time in that level of gravity, Torunkusu wasn't accustomed to it, simple as that. The effect would have been the same if it was simply 5g, since if he had no experience with that gravity level then he'd be encumbered by it.

All that battle power does help with is determining how quickly the individual will grow accustomed to the gravity.

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Pober

It's real world with few race...type Saiyan(like Vegeta, Goku..itd), Cyclops(Tien), Challenger(Freeza), Cell(Cell), Human(all people on earth...itd...)...itd...standard physics + new idea's physics...(grow up vital energy, itd...)...

Darkprince410

No, no, no. The physical standards of the real world do not apply, because Toriyama did not want them to apply. For all intents and purposes he changed, removed, or just ignored laws at his own leisure to fit how he wanted, which is why gravity is treated the way it is, as well as the other examples I gave.

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