Evil Vegeta

When Vegeta & Goku fought Pui-Pui & Yakon through the first two stages, Dabura decided to battle in the stage three, when in fact, he was supposed to be the final enemy. Now, what I think, is the guy who got the energy meter for Babi when Goku transformed into SSJ, was originally supposed to be the stage three opponent before Dabura intervened.

Is that an accurate guess? He looked rather weak, but he could've been incredibly powerful.

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USSJed

I remember(?) in the anime the Z Fighters bitch slap their way thru like 200 of that guy. I think he is just a Majin Soldier or something.

Evil Vegeta

Yeah, he's probably just an assistant. He was the only other guy I saw besides the ones we already know of, so that's why I assumed he could've been the third fighter. Babi probably had another creature like Yakon in a cage, or somewhere hidden. I just think the guy could've potentially been the fighter. He looked kind of strong to me.

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USSJed

If he did have a third fighter, he was still nothing. After Vegeta destroyed the ship, nothing is mentioned about him.

SSJ4 Vegito

Yeah, your right! Perhaps the "Majin" soldiers are fairly strong and were planning on ganging up on them. Either that or there was some unknown fighter but even if he was to fight he can't be stronger than Dabura so I doubt he'd give them much trouble. I guess we'll never know but hey it COULD be the Majin soldier.

SuperTien

Wow So, basically Babidi and his guys would have been unbeatable in the cell saga( not even counting buu because he was almost unbeatable)? Wasn't Dabura stronger than Super Perfect cell?

WeKillYouAll

No Dabura is weaker than SPC. I have Dabura just around or less than Perfect Cell IMO.

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gkrt

Well Super Perfect Cell was around SSJ2 Gohan. Gohan was only using SSJ and was weaker than he was before. The battle between Dabura was pretty close so there you go.

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Pober

I have him too less than Perfect Cell, not Super Perfect Cell -.-Gohan Ssj < Dabura < Goku Ssj & Vegeta Ssj...

USSJed

Why do people say Dabura=Perfect Cell(Not Super Perfect) but then say Supreme Kai>>>100% Final Form Frieza?

Retarded logic right there.

Devilz

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Evil Vegeta

It usually goes into the "was Gohan a MSSJ or SSJ2" argument which gets annoying after awhile. Dabura hit Gohan with a fireball when his guard was down, and it did no damage, so he's weaker then Super Perfect Cell. I do agree that some believing he's around Cell when he's warming up, or the one that fought Vegeta makes no sense, though.

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USSJed

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Where's the retarded part?

Goku said Dabura=Cell
Supreme Kai said he>>>Frieza

People assume Goku is talking about Perfect Cell, not Super Perfect(As in weak Cell, not strongest Cell), yet assume Supreme Kai is talking about Full Power Frieza, not 500,000 Frieza. Thats retarded.

SuperTien

Yea I would agree with Dabura slighlty above perfect cell and below super perfect cell.

Well Gohan fights dabura and Gohan was the strongest in cell saga, but stopped training, Goku and vegeta on the other hand have probably become slightly greater than gohan had been as a ssj2 in there ssj2 forms.

On Supreme Kai, well it's hard to say; I don't have the volume but I have heard he said he is 1000 times stronger than freeza.

So he's 530,000,000 - 120,000,000,000 based on manga guide levels.

Does Piccolo state he could defeat Supreme kai?

Evil Vegeta

Shin said that: "Each Kaioshin would've felled Freeza in one blow!"

So, while that's not 1000x stronger, he's well above Freeza in power.

He never really states if he could or not. Piccolo just said "Shin has the chi of a higher being", and that's likely knowledge from Kami.

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