The stage three enemy? - Page 3

SSJ4 Vegito · 06-28-2008

Well the Power needed to be felt from the Otherworld would be SSJ3 Power as demonstrated in the Boo Saga. Plus Goku never commented on Super Perfect Cell's strength, he's Gohan's Dad and he will encourage him no matter what plus he knows Gohan has alot of potential, he merely told Gohan to believe in himself. He didn't know about Cell's Power.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-28-2008

I dunno, my fanslation has him saying things like "Gohan you can do it, your hidden power is far higher than his!"

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Well the Power needed to be felt from the Otherworld would be SSJ3 Power as demonstrated in the Boo Saga

Goku was speaking to Gohan thru KK, its entirely possible that if he could see and speak to Gohan, he could also sense the power of the people around him.

Evil Vegeta · 06-28-2008

When Goku spoke to Gohan, he specifically told him "He was holding back his power to prevent from blowing up the planet", or along those lines. Goku didn't make a reference to Cell, and he shouldn't have, either.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-28-2008

Could someone post the page up? Also, does Goku say(about Dabura)

"We fought a guy named Cell a while back, he's probably about as strong as him"
or
"I fought a guy named Cell a while back, he's probably about as strong as him"

The other piece of logic, is story progression. Toriyama makes a GT style referance to a previous villain, in order to make a current villain seem more powerful.

Evil Vegeta · 06-28-2008

Here's what Goku said:

Goku: Seven years ago there was a guy named Cell. I guess they're about the same.

That's all he mentions.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-28-2008

Hmm, that one does not refer to any particular Cell either...

Evil Vegeta · 06-28-2008

Yeah, but we know he's referring to any level of Cell above Semi or Imperfect. Like when Krillin mentioned that "Cell is stronger then Freeza", we know he's not talkin about Freeza's second form, or anything like that.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-28-2008

Well, you'd think that, but there is no proof for it. Sure Goku never saw Imperfect Cell, but he saw Semiperfect Cell and sensed his power, he also fought against Perfect Cell, and possibly sensed Super Perfect Cell when he was talking to Gohan

Evil Vegeta · 06-28-2008

Goku sensed Imperfect Cell's power as well. No one really referred to Cell in any specific form, just Cell as Cell. Even if there no 100% he was referring to some level of Perfect Cell, it wouldn't be below that.

Goku even stated that "with our level of power now" he wouldn't be trouble like Cell was before.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-28-2008

Thats why I think it's a plot statement. Like when GT Goku said "Oh noes, Rildo is (???) stronger than Kid Buu"

When the Author either sucks ass(Toei), or is sick of the series(Toriyama), and so cannot make a villain seem dangerous, they just have something where someone says the villain is stronger than an older villain. A great example, is when Pikkon beat Cell and Frieza and whoever the fuck else crawled out of the Home for Infinite Losers.

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SSJ4 Vegito (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,482 Rep Power: 138	Re: The stage three enemy? Well the Power needed to be felt from the Otherworld would be SSJ3 Power as demonstrated in the Boo Saga. Plus Goku never commented on Super Perfect Cell's strength, he's Gohan's Dad and he will encourage him no matter what plus he knows Gohan has alot of potential, he merely told Gohan to believe in himself. He didn't know about Cell's Power.

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: The stage three enemy? Could someone post the page up? Also, does Goku say(about Dabura) "We fought a guy named Cell a while back, he's probably about as strong as him" or "I fought a guy named Cell a while back, he's probably about as strong as him" The other piece of logic, is story progression. Toriyama makes a GT style referance to a previous villain, in order to make a current villain seem more powerful. __________________ DBZ RPG Accepting new entrants! Must be active every day, at some point between 10am and 6pm New Zealand Time(+13), and willing to take the RPG seriously. 9 out of 10 MFGers thing that Orancello is SSJJason. If you are one of the 1 in 10 that don't, copy this and put it in your sig. Accepted Character Races. Android(#8, can upgrade later), Alien(Custom), Bio Android(Cell type), Changeling(Frieza), Demon, Human, Kaioshin, Namekian. Others conditionally. No Saiyans and Hybrids, sorry.

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: The stage three enemy? Hmm, that one does not refer to any particular Cell either... __________________ DBZ RPG Accepting new entrants! Must be active every day, at some point between 10am and 6pm New Zealand Time(+13), and willing to take the RPG seriously. 9 out of 10 MFGers thing that Orancello is SSJJason. If you are one of the 1 in 10 that don't, copy this and put it in your sig. Accepted Character Races. Android(#8, can upgrade later), Alien(Custom), Bio Android(Cell type), Changeling(Frieza), Demon, Human, Kaioshin, Namekian. Others conditionally. No Saiyans and Hybrids, sorry.

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: The stage three enemy? Well, you'd think that, but there is no proof for it. Sure Goku never saw Imperfect Cell, but he saw Semiperfect Cell and sensed his power, he also fought against Perfect Cell, and possibly sensed Super Perfect Cell when he was talking to Gohan __________________ DBZ RPG Accepting new entrants! Must be active every day, at some point between 10am and 6pm New Zealand Time(+13), and willing to take the RPG seriously. 9 out of 10 MFGers thing that Orancello is SSJJason. If you are one of the 1 in 10 that don't, copy this and put it in your sig. Accepted Character Races. Android(#8, can upgrade later), Alien(Custom), Bio Android(Cell type), Changeling(Frieza), Demon, Human, Kaioshin, Namekian. Others conditionally. No Saiyans and Hybrids, sorry.

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: The stage three enemy? Thats why I think it's a plot statement. Like when GT Goku said "Oh noes, Rildo is (???) stronger than Kid Buu" When the Author either sucks ass(Toei), or is sick of the series(Toriyama), and so cannot make a villain seem dangerous, they just have something where someone says the villain is stronger than an older villain. A great example, is when Pikkon beat Cell and Frieza and whoever the fuck else crawled out of the Home for Infinite Losers. __________________ DBZ RPG Accepting new entrants! Must be active every day, at some point between 10am and 6pm New Zealand Time(+13), and willing to take the RPG seriously. 9 out of 10 MFGers thing that Orancello is SSJJason. If you are one of the 1 in 10 that don't, copy this and put it in your sig. Accepted Character Races. Android(#8, can upgrade later), Alien(Custom), Bio Android(Cell type), Changeling(Frieza), Demon, Human, Kaioshin, Namekian. Others conditionally. No Saiyans and Hybrids, sorry.