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No one said that.
Kuririn said Piccolo's SNM will be ANALAGOUS to Goku's SSJ. It's possible he meant like a transformation. And he didn't merely "get stronger", he merged with another Namek. So even if I meant that, you phail. |
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I think SRP is sayin it isn't a random assimilation, and that it's the reunion of two half's being whole again. That really is totally different then a free assimilation.
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I know, I'm just teasing them since they think they're good at sarcasm.
But you know, a super namek transformation is quite plausible. The way USSJed is decribing it, it's as though Piccolo has a "base" and releases it "in one burst" when he has to fight a very strong opponent. This example is demonstrated when he fights Gero. Gero assumes Piccolo is only a little stronger than the humans; so he devises a plan to absorb all of Vegeta's allies one-by-one starting with the strongest (meaning Piccolo). The plan backfires when Gohan saves him just in time. Now, it is IMPOSSIBLE for Gohan to be anyplace near a SSJ's chi. Piccolo was compared to the SSJ's. But the thing I want to point out is that Kuririn did not notice how strong he was until after he "released his chi in one tremendous burst". Piccolo laters comments how Gero "stole nothing" (actually using the term "nothing") in regards to getting his chi absorbed. This goes to show Piccolo indeed has a base so do speak, and it is only around Goku's and Trunks' bases (3,000,000+ post Freeza). Just do the math: Piccolo (base): 4,000,000 Gero steals energy: 1,500,000 Piccolo (full-power): 60,000,000 1,500,000 is only 0.02% of 60 million. Indeed, when Piccolo said Gero stole "nothing from him" he meant it in the literal sense. And there is no way in hell Gohan was near SSJ power in his base. Gero was probably in the low millions when Gohan hit him. |
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While that's a good explanation, Gohan didn't have to be close to any SSJ power because he attacked Gero when he didn't expect it. The same way Gohan & Krillin knocked Dodoria away, his guard was just down. Now, when you say "tremendous burst", do you mean when Piccolo started to attack Gero? If so, I agree. It's the same way no one noticed Trunsk chi until he attacked Cold's henchmen with the sword, he raised it at the point of attack.
Piccolo's base is just him with weights, once he removes them, he's like a totally different person. He only powered-up like once after removing his weights, and that was against #17.
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2-Yeah, he hardly uses his full-power. Also, against 3rd form Freeza. All evidence supports USSJed's theory. |
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Well, when Piccolo said they could "amplify" their energy into one tremendous burst, I always thought he was referring to a beam attack of some sort. Guess that was incorrect.
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So lets make an evidence list... Piccolo can turn Super Namek -Insanely high power level compared to base Saiyans, who are suppost to be the strongest... -Being called a Super Namek at various points -The thing with Gero(although that could refer to him just not being powered up) Piccolo just has a high base -No physical transformation -No exact referance to Piccolo transforming Anything else?
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USSJed: Thats fair enough, but what if, the NKikoho pushed Cell down through Sheer Force, no 'its a pushing attack that does no damage' or 'it mind controlled Cell to make him crash into the ground', just force.What PL would you give Tien, if Cell was 1,000,000,000 Hero: 100,000,000.
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