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Old 06-21-2008   #121 (permalink)
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Hellol three years for the andsroids the most intense training ever......
With Chaozu...Chaozu isn't exactly a good sparring partner if you're saying tien is over 1,000,000.
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Default Re: JATFBT-Tien so totally >>>1,000,000

Yeah and that still only put him around 100,000 if even.
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With Chaozu...Chaozu isn't exactly a good sparring partner if you're saying tien is over 1,000,000.
And who says he isnt he also got stronger....Tien probbaly also trained alone...But it was intensive for sure
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And who says he isnt he also got stronger....Tien probbaly also trained alone...But it was intensive for sure
I guess it could have been intense. I'm saying that King Kai's was more intense. King Kai would push Tien further than he would push himself.
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Sorry I haven't checked back here in awhile, but here we go:
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If for you cell explanation isn't a mistake forget it.But congratulations you are the first one.He forgot lunch he even forgot who kame sennin(master roshi)was.
These are facts.
He didn't forget who lunch was...he just got rid of her. Read volume 1 and you'll understand.

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Why do you want to see fan guesses?
.. AT's staff are fans just like the rest of us, just because they made their own pls doesn't make those the right ones.

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Jed already answered this one for me.
As Vegeta powers up to fight Recoombe, one of the Ginyu forces says he is at PL:20,000

They changed this in a rerelease to be 30,000
Ok well, I don't remember reading that but w/e. And besides, I doubt he changed it 'just because the daizenshuu said so' he probably changed it because it contradicted with his early Namek Saga(where vegeta was stated at 24,000)

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specially because toriyama's manga staff knows more about dragon ball than you.
How do you know?

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Not full power.
Eh?

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You said goku trained with powerfull masters who could rival his power.
No, I said his sparring partners(Gohan and Piccolo) were beginning to rival his base power, which means he could spar with them and increase his power as well.

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Toriyama's manga staff under his supervision revision and approval=fan guesses for you.Great!
It is great, isn't it?

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He called him pretty strong:
1-coz he deflects an energy blast.Buutenks has piccolo's brilliant mind and if gohan is there he knows gohan can avoid the blast which means the blast has power.
Buutenks is surprised when tenshinhan deflects the energy blast.
Due to this fact and due to the fact that he has piccolo knowledge about tenshinhan pl.
Buutenks wouldn't see someone at one million powerful either, he'd have to be at least in the hundreds of millions which we both know, is impossible.

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Plus, even if several millions aren't nothing for buutenks,he was surprised that someone
apart from sayajins or piccolo could avoid that blast.Anyway a guy with piccolo's brains is not going to call a guy bellow i million,pretty strong,simply he couldn't avoid that blast.And he never talks about the great ginyu.
He's not going to call someone at 1 miilion pretty strong either, so quit arguing that point...and when did I say anything about ginyu?

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Remember even a weak blast made by someone like buutenks is very powerfull a lot stronger than one made by a weakling like ginyu.
And after that buutenks says even a kick given to a guy like tenshinhan koed him easily.
Its called not using full power... ive explained this a million times already, even if tien was 1-5 million or w/e, the kick/blast was still too strong for him.

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No one ever even talks about ginyu,coz his pl in this saga is ridiculous for a z-senshi.
Ridiculous to someone who isn't using logic.

I really can't understand the rest of your post, please rewrite it in proper grammar or something.
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Default Re: JATFBT-Tien so totally >>>1,000,000

Tien got from 250 to 1100 (approx) in about a year. Half of that Kami's training the other half indicates that Tien increases a lot when he trains alone. Piccolo also increased by this much. God I hate repeating things...TIEN CAN REACH 1000,000 AND MUCH MUCH MORE JUST FACE THE FACTS
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Default Re: JATFBT-Tien so totally >>>1,000,000

You're not very convincing, perhaps you should start by posting with better spelling and grammar.

Tien got most of his increase from Kami's anyway.
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You're not very convincing, perhaps you should start by posting with better spelling and grammar.

Tien got most of his increase from Kami's anyway.
...and King Kai
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You didn't read his post.
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Tien got from 250 to 1100 (approx) in about a year. Half of that Kami's training the other half indicates that Tien increases a lot when he trains alone. Piccolo also increased by this much. God I hate repeating things...TIEN CAN REACH 1000,000 AND MUCH MUCH MORE JUST FACE THE FACTS
He could've gotten 99% of it from Kami and then gain 1% from the next 6 months.

=/ Tien<<<a million
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He could've gotten 99% of it from Kami and then gain 1% from the next 6 months.

=/ Tien<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<a million
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Tien>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million
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It's unfortunate that most Tien > 1 million supporters are Tien fanboys, lol.
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Tien>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million
A statement that is completely stupid. Tien could not surpass a million. Getting over 90,000 was over what a Saiyan was supposed to achieve. I'm assuming Saiyans were always gonna be stronger than humans.
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Come on...do you guys really believe that Tien got that little from his own training? Piccolo improved as much as the humans in the 1 year period on his own and didn't improve that much in the 4 years between DB and DBZ so Tien can't do that too?

Tien and Piccolo share a similar trait, they can both split forms therefore they can spar with themselves.

I think Kami had litte effect on the humans in terms of power. I mean he taught Goku everything in 3 years and at that rate he should've been a thousand if Kami's training is that effective. Tien, Krillin and Yamcha improved mostly on their own.
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