Mystic Gohan - Page 9

Devilz · 06-26-2008

Who's assigning limits to humans?

And Gohan does have a limit - every one does.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-26-2008

Noone is limiting humans in this thread, but some people say "Tien can't reach 1,000,000 because he is a Human!" with the meaning that it is beyond his limits, or something along those lines.

I think Gohan has reached his maximum limit from Old Kai, and that training would just keep him in shape. I find that much preferrable to the idea that PL's can increase to infinity and beyond.

Madness · 06-26-2008

Saiyans possibly have no limits.

SSJBulma · 06-26-2008

Considering that humans can do the things they do in Z World and they can't in the real world, there is a possibility that there are no limits or at least that there is a far greater range for humans than what's been given to them, especially in comparison to Saiyans.
Maybe it's a case that Saiyans can excel and reach higher levels of powers and pass limits quicker than humans. Maybe that's a key trait of a Saiyan warrior. The get powerful quicker.
Human can reach the same heights in a way, only it takes longer. And because of the time bind, Saiyans will always be ahead in the power struggle of human fighters. (unless they were to stop training for a long period of time)

Madness · 06-26-2008

Zenkais give Saiyans an edge anyway =/

**Majuub** · 06-26-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

Noone is limiting humans in this thread, but some people say "Tien can't reach 1,000,000 because he is a Human!" with the meaning that it is beyond his limits, or something along those lines.

I think Gohan has reached his maximum limit from Old Kai, and that training would just keep him in shape. I find that much preferrable to the idea that PL's can increase to infinity and beyond.

I am limiting humans because well, they're humans. It's beyond ridiculous to think they can get as powerful as 2nd form Frieza who was at the time the strongest being in the universe. It's not like any human aside from Tienshinhan can match that. I give humans a limit but it's very possible Tienshinhan matched or even exceed 2nd form Frieza. No human is in the same league as 100% Frieza or SSJ Goku though. I mean, the most powerful human(Tienshinhan) should be about 100x weaker than them even when he hits his peak.

SSJBulma · 06-26-2008

Hmmmmmmmm

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Originally Posted by Majuub

I am limiting humans because well, they're humans. It's beyond ridiculous to think they can get as powerful as 2nd form Frieza who was at the time the strongest being in the universe. It's not like any human aside from Tienshinhan can match that. I give humans a limit but it's very possible Tienshinhan matched or even exceed 2nd form Frieza. No human is in the same league as 100% Frieza or SSJ Goku though. I mean, the most powerful human(Tienshinhan) should be about 100x weaker than them even when he hits his peak.

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Originally Posted by SSJBulma

Considering that humans can do the things they do in Z World and they can't in the real world, there is a possibility that there are no limits or at least that there is a far greater range for humans than what's been given to them, especially in comparison to Saiyans.
Maybe it's a case that Saiyans can excel and reach higher levels of powers and pass limits quicker than humans. Maybe that's a key trait of a Saiyan warrior. The get powerful quicker.
Human can reach the same heights in a way, only it takes longer. And because of the time bind, Saiyans will always be ahead in the power struggle of human fighters. (unless they were to stop training for a long period of time)

Madness · 06-26-2008

Why does everyone think that Tienshinhan is so powerful anyway? We never see him train after the Freeza Saga, so we can't say for sure that he was.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-26-2008

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I am limiting humans because well, they're humans. It's beyond ridiculous to think they can get as powerful as 2nd form Frieza who was at the time the strongest being in the universe. It's not like any human aside from Tienshinhan can match that. I give humans a limit but it's very possible Tienshinhan matched or even exceed 2nd form Frieza. No human is in the same league as 100% Frieza or SSJ Goku though. I mean, the most powerful human(Tienshinhan) should be about 100x weaker than them even when he hits his peak.

It's fine for you to have your own opinion, but make sure you don't start acting as if it were true.

Keep in mind, that Saiyans are similar enough to humans to allow interbreeding, and half Saiyans are Demigod's in terms of power, so Humans must have something going for them.

Devilz · 06-26-2008

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Originally Posted by Madness

Why does everyone think that Tienshinhan is so powerful anyway?

The Neo-Tri Beam, which is a stupid thing to base it on, and Buu's statement which means nothing.

And the rest are just fanboys.

uki1234 · 06-26-2008

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Originally Posted by Devilz

And the rest are just fanboys.

Kaio · 06-26-2008

I like how when every time someone writes a counter-argument, they don't bother to mention why they can all of a sudden ignore phyisical logic, or explain why there's actually no evidence to support that "they've forever reached their physical limit". All that has been proven is that Gohan can't get zenkais anymore, and that super saiyan three taps into Goku's maximum power, which obviously just be hidden potential as well.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-26-2008

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The Neo-Tri Beam, which is a stupid thing to base it on

So what would be a more accurate thing to base it on, for a character that does no fighting....

Madness · 06-26-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

So what would be a more accurate thing to base it on, for a character that does no fighting....

Nothing at all. Simply accept that he's a useless character by this point.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-27-2008

But he isn't, his Neo Tri beam saved ass multiple times.

06-26-2008	#122 (permalink)
Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: Mystic Gohan Noone is limiting humans in this thread, but some people say "Tien can't reach 1,000,000 because he is a Human!" with the meaning that it is beyond his limits, or something along those lines. I think Gohan has reached his maximum limit from Old Kai, and that training would just keep him in shape. I find that much preferrable to the idea that PL's can increase to infinity and beyond. __________________ DBZ RPG Accepting new entrants! Must be active every day, at some point between 10am and 6pm New Zealand Time(+13), and willing to take the RPG seriously. 9 out of 10 MFGers thing that Orancello is SSJJason. If you are one of the 1 in 10 that don't, copy this and put it in your sig. Accepted Character Races. Android(#8, can upgrade later), Alien(Custom), Bio Android(Cell type), Changeling(Frieza), Demon, Human, Kaioshin, Namekian. Others conditionally. No Saiyans and Hybrids, sorry.

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Kaio (15) Super Namekian Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 439 Rep Power: 8	Re: Mystic Gohan I like how when every time someone writes a counter-argument, they don't bother to mention why they can all of a sudden ignore phyisical logic, or explain why there's actually no evidence to support that "they've forever reached their physical limit". All that has been proven is that Gohan can't get zenkais anymore, and that super saiyan three taps into Goku's maximum power, which obviously just be hidden potential as well.

06-27-2008	#135 (permalink)
Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: Mystic Gohan But he isn't, his Neo Tri beam saved ass multiple times. __________________ DBZ RPG Accepting new entrants! Must be active every day, at some point between 10am and 6pm New Zealand Time(+13), and willing to take the RPG seriously. 9 out of 10 MFGers thing that Orancello is SSJJason. If you are one of the 1 in 10 that don't, copy this and put it in your sig. Accepted Character Races. Android(#8, can upgrade later), Alien(Custom), Bio Android(Cell type), Changeling(Frieza), Demon, Human, Kaioshin, Namekian. Others conditionally. No Saiyans and Hybrids, sorry.