Mystic Gohan - Page 8

Dupe of USSJed · 06-24-2008

I had this big paragraph about how your wrong, but seriously, I can't be fucked. In simple terms, Old Kai boosted Gohan to a level he never would have achieved in any other way. "Ultimate Gohan">>>> Any other Gohan that could have existed except one boosted by someone better than Old Kai.

Kaio · 06-24-2008

Yea; like Krillen. And there was an argument about the same thing with Goku too; and him reaching his peak with super saiyan three.

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Originally Posted by USSJed

I had this big paragraph about how your wrong, but seriously, I can't be fucked. In simple terms, Old Kai boosted Gohan to a level he never would have achieved in any other way. "Ultimate Gohan">>>> Any other Gohan that could have existed except one boosted by someone better than Old Kai.

And please explain to me how that magically makes Gohan's body not susceptible to the laws of basic evolution anymore?

Madness · 06-24-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

I had this big paragraph about how your wrong, but seriously, I can't be fucked. In simple terms, Old Kai boosted Gohan to a level he never would have achieved in any other way. "Ultimate Gohan">>>> Any other Gohan that could have existed except one boosted by someone better than Old Kai.

Yup, he brought him beyond his limits. But people have gone through limits loads of times before. Goku does it all the time =/

Hell, he surpassed his limits in Dragon Ball.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-24-2008

Like I said, I can't be fucked. You might be right, or you might be wrong. I simply don't find this topic interesting any more...

Madness · 06-24-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

Like I said, I can't be fucked. You might be right, or you might be wrong. I simply don't find this topic interesting any more...

I'm simply saying that characters have "surpassed their limits" several times before and improved anyway. Korin's water did that for Goku IIRC.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-24-2008

I'm not arguing with that. Like I said, I am over this topic. I was thinking "Damn idiots, theres no way Gohan could surpass his limits.... wait, why do I even care?"

Madness · 06-24-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

I'm not arguing with that. Like I said, I am over this topic. I was thinking "Damn idiots, theres no way Gohan could surpass his limits.... wait, why do I even care?"

Then why d'you keep replying?

Dupe of USSJed · 06-24-2008

Because these posts are nothing to do with the actual topic.

Madness · 06-24-2008

Aha! I see your point. Should we stop replying then?

JayXL14 · 06-25-2008

Wow, why is this taking so long..? Gohan has lots of latent power, which we could all see from the beginning. Now, at Cell Saga, we also saw he unleashed some of this power (with the help of an emotional trigger, nonetheless). However, when UNLOCKED by Elder Kai, all of his latent power was released and added to his BASE form. He is now unable to grow any stronger or faster (Why would he, he's the strongest warrior on Earth..). Yes, he could most likely improve on techniques or what-not, but no, he cannot grow any stronger or faster. If you are perfect at something to the point where you make no mistakes (redundant because I said the word perfect) or 100%, you cannot achieve more than 100%. Don't try to refute this with the bullshit sayings of "Give it 110%!" because those are merely just expressions..

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Originally Posted by Kaio

And please explain to me how that magically makes Gohan's body not susceptible to the laws of basic evolution anymore?

I have no idea what you were trying to prove with that comment..

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Originally Posted by Kaio

Do people think I'm saying Gohan has more hidden potential? Because I'm not.

Yes, we know that YOU KNOW Gohan doesn't have any more hidden potential. You know it, so why can you not accept that Gohan cannot grow stronger or faster.. He's 100%, once again, there is no more than that. He can improve at skills such as techniques, and that is basically all, although you can probably find more.. I really don't understand you.. You know 2+2=4 but you don't know 4-2=2. Yes, I'd say that metaphor sums up your argument pretty well..

Dupe of USSJed · 06-25-2008

...The thing is, that King Kai stated Goku had exceeded his limits by doing that gravity training on the way to Namek. Why can Gohan not exceed his limits as well?

(U Turn right there)

Kaio · 06-25-2008

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Originally Posted by JayXL14

Yes, we know that YOU KNOW Gohan doesn't have any more hidden potential. You know it, so why can you not accept that Gohan cannot grow stronger or faster.. He's 100%, once again, there is no more than that. He can improve at skills such as techniques, and that is basically all, although you can probably find more.. I really don't understand you.. You know 2+2=4 but you don't know 4-2=2. Yes, I'd say that metaphor sums up your argument pretty well..

Because, for the xmth time, just because you have no more hidden potential doesn't mean you can't get stronger just by training regularaly like regular humans do. Get it? No more hidden potential does not mean his body has magically reached a state that ignores the basic laws of physics; Krillen got stronger training for the Androids even after Guru released all of his hidden potential; he didn't get stronger from magical, potential awakening things again. . . just by excercise. One can always get stronger through physical work, even if it's just very slowly

Evil Vegeta · 06-25-2008

Gohan reached his limits, and he could not get stronger. Buu even stated that he was at his limits because he couldn't get any stronger. If the maigc is stated to be "far beyond his limits", then he's definitely at his strongest.

Kaio · 06-25-2008

The same thing has been said and argued with Goku after reaching super saiyan three, yet, agianst Uub, it's very possible that his base form became as powerful as his prior super saiyan two form.

I think you're merely confusing limits of "potential" with physical limits. There's no such thing as a permanent physical limit, unless you want to argue that somehow the laws of physics and evolution can be disregarded, when they seem to comply with Goku and Krillen.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-26-2008

Once a human(a real one) reaches a certain strength, they don't get any stronger.

But what I like to point out, is that with Kaio's logic, Tien could reach 1,000,000! If Gohan has NO LIMIT then why the fuck are people assigning limits to humans?

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: Mystic Gohan I had this big paragraph about how your wrong, but seriously, I can't be fucked. In simple terms, Old Kai boosted Gohan to a level he never would have achieved in any other way. "Ultimate Gohan">>>> Any other Gohan that could have existed except one boosted by someone better than Old Kai.

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: Mystic Gohan Like I said, I can't be fucked. You might be right, or you might be wrong. I simply don't find this topic interesting any more...

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: Mystic Gohan I'm not arguing with that. Like I said, I am over this topic. I was thinking "Damn idiots, theres no way Gohan could surpass his limits.... wait, why do I even care?"

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: Mystic Gohan Because these posts are nothing to do with the actual topic.

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: Mystic Gohan ...The thing is, that King Kai stated Goku had exceeded his limits by doing that gravity training on the way to Namek. Why can Gohan not exceed his limits as well? (U Turn right there) __________________ DBZ RPG Accepting new entrants! Must be active every day, at some point between 10am and 6pm New Zealand Time(+13), and willing to take the RPG seriously. 9 out of 10 MFGers thing that Orancello is SSJJason. If you are one of the 1 in 10 that don't, copy this and put it in your sig. Accepted Character Races. Android(#8, can upgrade later), Alien(Custom), Bio Android(Cell type), Changeling(Frieza), Demon, Human, Kaioshin, Namekian. Others conditionally. No Saiyans and Hybrids, sorry.

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Kaio (15) Super Namekian Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 439 Rep Power: 8	Re: Mystic Gohan The same thing has been said and argued with Goku after reaching super saiyan three, yet, agianst Uub, it's very possible that his base form became as powerful as his prior super saiyan two form. I think you're merely confusing limits of "potential" with physical limits. There's no such thing as a permanent physical limit, unless you want to argue that somehow the laws of physics and evolution can be disregarded, when they seem to comply with Goku and Krillen.

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: Mystic Gohan Once a human(a real one) reaches a certain strength, they don't get any stronger. But what I like to point out, is that with Kaio's logic, Tien could reach 1,000,000! If Gohan has NO LIMIT then why the fuck are people assigning limits to humans? __________________ DBZ RPG Accepting new entrants! Must be active every day, at some point between 10am and 6pm New Zealand Time(+13), and willing to take the RPG seriously. 9 out of 10 MFGers thing that Orancello is SSJJason. If you are one of the 1 in 10 that don't, copy this and put it in your sig. Accepted Character Races. Android(#8, can upgrade later), Alien(Custom), Bio Android(Cell type), Changeling(Frieza), Demon, Human, Kaioshin, Namekian. Others conditionally. No Saiyans and Hybrids, sorry.