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Old 06-21-2008   #91 (permalink)
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hmm that's weird. I need to watch that part again. Everyone keeps swearing up and down that Mystic Gohan is Gohan at his full potential. I'll get back to you on this one.
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This conversation has become. . . stupid. It's physically impossible for one not to be able to ever improve, ever again. He may not have hidden potential, but one can always get stronger through training, like how Krillen did while training for the androids after having his potential awakened by Guru. And what does this have to do with anything, really?
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Kaioshin brings out the dormant power of Gohan, Yeah the fact that his limit was PASSED (again) proves my freakin point.

Vegeta vs Dodaria check it.....
Kaiôshin doesn't *say* dormant power. He says "beyond your limits." If you understand Japanese, the word used is 限界 (genkai). This means Gohan had to have a limit, or his power up would never have ended.

Yeah, you're right about the Dodoria fight. He literally says "Freeza is afraid of the Saiyans' bottomless potential...!"

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Gohan is far beyond his limits, Ultima. His power is stated to not even increase by Buu when's he's healed.
True. He says that his power had only returned to normal after being healed by Dende.



"I-impossible...! His power's been restored to the same as before...!! Who is that strange little brat...?
...But he's only went back to the same as before... He hasn't powered up at all..."
I really don't think that Ultimate Gohan could gain any more power after he was brought past his limits.
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Are you argueing against me?
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Are you argueing against me?
Are you talking to me?

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I just don't get what's so unreasonable about it being physically impossible not to be able to improve? He may not have any more potential, but he can always improve, any time, like Krillen did even though Guru awakened all of his hidden power.
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Where did you get ALL from?

Otherwise Gohan would not have increased from Old Kai.
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I meant all of his hidden power was awakened from the eldar kai.
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I meant all of his hidden power was awakened from the eldar kai.
No, you said that Gohan and Kuririn had all of their power awakened on Namek. Saichôrô only said that he could call out Kuririn's "sleeping power" (he literally says sleeping in Japanese). He never said that he was bringing out all of their hidden power.

The Elder Kaiôshin, however, actually said that he could bring Gohan past his natural limit. Boo also said that Gohan didn't get any stronger after being brought back from a near-death experience, so I don't think he had any more power to gain.
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But whether a Zankai gain is different from a training gain is another matter.

And I think I'm reading way too much into this.
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No, you said that Gohan and Kuririn had all of their power awakened on Namek. Saichôrô only said that he could call out Kuririn's "sleeping power" (he literally says sleeping in Japanese). He never said that he was bringing out all of their hidden power.
It's the same thing. . .

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The Elder Kaiôshin, however, actually said that he could bring Gohan past his natural limit. Boo also said that Gohan didn't get any stronger after being brought back from a near-death experience, so I don't think he had any more power to gain.
This still doesn't prove anything. It just proves that he has no more hidden potential to power up from. He can still excersize and get more physically stronger from, like we can, but can't get any more majical, potential awakening power-ups. It's just physically impossible not to be able to improve anymore, even if it's just very slightly at a very slow rate. Also, what Madness said.
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This still doesn't prove anything. It just proves that he has no more hidden potential to power up from. He can still excersize and get more physically stronger from, like we can, but can't get any more majical, potential awakening power-ups. It's just physically impossible not to be able to improve anymore, even if it's just very slightly at a very slow rate. Also, what Madness said.
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I honestly don't see why this is so ridiculous. I mean, when did disregarding the logic of basic evolution become crazy? Am I saying what I mean clear enough? Do people think I'm saying Gohan has more hidden potential? Because I'm not.
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Same here. I simply think he could become more powerful through training.
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