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Tien is definately not useless.
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But he isn't, his Neo Tri beam saved ass multiple times.
Once. Krillin saved Gohan's arse against Freeza. And?
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I have proved that Krillin could possibly have a PL in the 100,000-600,000 range at that point. He is far from useless.
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All of the humans are pretty useless after the Saiyan saga or Freeza saga if we're talkin about Krillin. All they're good for, is either takin one hit that knocks them out, or complain that the power they're sensing is far beyond their own, as if it isn't obvious already.
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Tien did save some ass a few times with his Tri Beam, but to be honest, without SSJ the Saiyans are MOL in the same boat as the humans
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He stopped Cell from absorbing #18, and he stopped Buu's beam from crushing Dende. That's the only times I can think of.

The Saiyans would be comparable to the humans with SSJ? How strong do you think the base Saiyans are? It sounds like you have them rather weak.
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Yup. Without Vegeta's dumbassary, Tien would have prevented the Cell games. K Dogg also took a stone spit, that otherwise would have been aimed at Goku...sniff...Krillin...the true hero of DBZ
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Cell was about to blast the island that the Androids were on, though. Android #18 didn't want to take any damage, and since Cell fired attacks only strong enough to blow up the island, he would've captured her eventually. Vegeta did help, but had he not shown up, she would've been absorbed anyway.

It was Krillin who really could've prevented the Cell Games if he used the remote control.
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I have proved that Krillin could possibly have a PL in the 100,000-600,000 range at that point. He is far from useless.
You can't prove a possibily =/

And since the humans aren't used anymore it's hard to guage their strength. Even Tien cannot be guaged as his Kikoho is stronger than him by an unknown amount.
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There are no clear distinctions for the human Z fighters. It's a constant debate.
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When was it stated to be stronger than Tien? I know it was, but I cannot remember when...

Also, wouldn't it be 3, 30, 300, or 3000 times stronger than Tien?
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I've got the Neo Kihoho 10,000x stronger than Tien, lol.
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Gah, it works, but it's undeniably stupid... Why not just say Tien was several million? Its well within the realm of possibility, and it makes more sense than a x10,000 attack
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A x1,000 attack and a x10,000 attack is equally as stupid to me... so no I'm not changing it.
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