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Well I noticed there have been a lot of power level threads lately and I’m sure most of you are tired of seeing them, but I’m sure you can make it through just one more list. ;)

Here’s my newest (And last) Dragonball Z power level list. I figured I’d go all-out and re-read the whole series just to get every last detail there is to show about power levels (That are important at least). There’s just one thing I’d like to point out before anyone has a look at this. This list depends heavily on multipliers. Almost everything has a multiplier or some kind of method to the posted level. I’d rather not have to deal with people complaining about certain things having a multiplier, or multipliers in general for that matter, so if you have to, just ignore them.

Well that’s all. Be sure to tell me what you think of the list or what you think I should change.

Dragonball Z
Multipliers:
Techniques
Kamehameha
[Normal]- 1.3x User’s Power
[Full Power]- 1.5x User’s Power
[Super Kamehameha]- 2.5x User’s Power
[Quick Kamehameha]- Equal to or Below User’s Power
[Beginner’s Kamehameha]- 1.05x User’s Power
[Small Kamehameha]- 1.1x User’s Power

Light of Death
[Fully Charged]- 5x User’s Power
[2nd Time, Fully Charged]- 4x User’s Power

Self-Destruct
[Cultivar]- 1.3x User’s Power
[Chaotzu]- 1.5x User’s Power
[Vegeta]- 4x User’s Power

Ki Ko Ho
[Normal]- 4x User’s Power
[Shin Ki Ko Ho]- 8,000x User’s Power

Masenko
[Normal]- 1.12x User’s Power

Galickgun
[Fully Charged]- 1.5x User’s Power

Final Flash
[Against Recoome]- 1.1x User’s Power
[Against Cell]- 1.7x User’s Power

Eraser Cannon
[Used By Recoome]- 1.2x User’s Power

Crusher Ball
[Used By Jeice]- 1.1x User’s Power

Force Field
[Used By Frieza]- 1.3x User’s Power
[Used by #17]- 1.3x User’s Power

Big Bang
[Used By Vegeta]- 1.2x User’s Power

Hell’s Flash
[Used by #16]- 1.1x User’s Power

Super Ghost Kamikaze
[Used by Gotenks & Buu]- 1.2x User’s Power
Transformations
Oozaru
[Great Ape]- 10x User’s Power

Zarbon’s Suppression
[Monster Zarbon]- 1.31x User’s Suppressed Power

Freeza’s Suppressions
[2nd Form]- 3x 1st Form
[3rd Form]- 1.5x 2nd Form
[True Form]- 68x 3rd Form

Super Saiyajin
[New SSJ]- 55-45x User’s Base
[Trained SSJ]- 40-25x User’s Base
[Well Trained SSJ]- 20-10x User’s Base
[MSSJ]- 7.5-4x User’s Base
[SSJ Fusion]- 5x Fusion base

Super Saiyajin 2
[New SSJ2]- 5x SSJ Power
[Trained SSJ2]- 4x SSJ Power
[SSJ2 Fusion]- 2.5x SSJ Fusion’s Power

Super Saiyajin 3
[Full Power]- 3x SSJ2 Power
[SSJ3 Fusion]- 2x SSJ2 Fusion’s Power

Cell’s Forms
[Semi Perfect Cell]- 2x Imperfect Cell’s Power
[Perfect Cell]- 10x Semi Perfect Cell’s Power

Majin Buu
[Shin Buu]- 12x Buu of Wrath’s Power
[Gotenks Buu]- Shin Buu+SSJ3 Gotenks+Piccolo’s Power
[Piccolo Buu]- Shin Buu+Goten+Trunks+Piccolo’s Power
[Gohan Buu]- Shin Buu+Gohan+Goten+Trunks+Piccolo’s Power
[Buff Buu]- 1.1x Shin Buu’s Power
[Kid Buu]- 7.5x Weaker Than Buff Buu
[Fat Buu]- 8x Weaker Than Buff Buu
Power Ups
Weighted Clothes
[Goku’s]- Around 80% Power
[Piccolo’s]- Around 79% Power

Kaio-Ken
[Normal]- 2x User’s Power
[Kaio-Ken x3]- 3x User’s Power
[Kaio-Ken x4]- 4x User’s Power
[Kaio-Ken x10]- 10x User’s Power
[Kaio-Ken x20]- 20x User’s Power

Beyond Super Saiyajin
[ASSJ]- 2x SSJ’s Power
[USSJ]- 2x ASSJ’s Power
[Cell’s Demonstration]- 1.5x User’s Power

Mystic Power Up
[Gohan]- 425x User’s Power

Fusion
Fusion Dance
[Gotenks]- 100x Both User’s Power.

Potara Fusion
[Vegito]- 500x Strongest User’s Power
Saiyan Saga:
Raditz vs Goku&Piccolo:
Raditz- 770
[Full Power]- 1,220
[Injured]- 675


Farmer- 5

Piccolo- 322
[Weighted Clothes off]- 408
[Arm Lost]- 266
[Light of Death]- 1,330
[2nd Light of Death]- 1,064

Goku- 334
[Weighted Clothes off]- 416
[Mid-Charge Super Kamehameha]- 924
[Fully Charged Super Kamehameha]- 1,040
[Injured]- 340

Gohan-1
[Trapped in Space Pod]-710
[Enraged]- 1,307
Preparing For The Saiyans
Lord Enma-1,500
Kaio-2,800
Goku-416

Roshi-139

Krillin-206
[After Training with Kami]-1,030

Tien-250
[After Training with Kami]-1,250

Yamcha-177
[After Training with Kami]-885

Chaotzu-140
[After Training with Kami]-700

Yajirobi-150
[After Training with Kami]-450
Arrival of Saiyans
Piccolo-1,220
[Full Power]- 2,320


Gohan- 981

Krillin-1,083
[Full Power]- 1,620
[Concentrated Blast]- 7,920
[Split into 6 Attacks]- 1,320


Yamcha- 995
[Full Power]- 1,295

Tien-1,140
[Full Power]-1,875

Chaotzu-900

Cultivars- 1,200
[Self-Destruct]- 1,560
Nappa vs Z Fighters
Nappa- 2,000
[Powered Up]- 3,010
[Enraged]- 6,560
[Full Power]- 8,000

Chaotzu-1,050
[Self-Destruct]- 1,575

Tien-1,875
[Lost his arm]-625
[Ki Ko Ho]- 2,500

Piccolo- 2,320

Krillin- 1,620

Gohan-1,500
[Quick jump in power]-2,500
[Masenko]-2,800

Goku- 5,000
[Full Power]- 8,200
[Quick Kamehameha]- 8,000
[Kaio-Ken]- 16,400
Goku vs Vegeta
Goku- 8,200
[Kaio-Ken]- 16,400
[Kaio-Ken x3]- 24,600
[Post Kaio-Ken x3]- 5,000
[Kaio-Ken x3 + Kamehameha]- 22,500
[Kaio-Ken x4 +Kamehameha]- 30,000
[Post Kaio-Ken x4 Kamehameha]- 2,500
[Kaio-Ken]- 5,000
[Genki Dama]- 85,000

Vegeta- 14,000
[Serious]- 16,500
[Full Power]- 18,650
[Post Kaio-Ken x3 Thrashing]- 15,000
[Galicgun]- 22,500
[Post Galickgun/Kamehameha Struggle]- 7,500
[Post Energy Ball]- 5,000
[Oozaru]- 50,000
[Post Oozaru]- 4,500
[Hit by Genki Dama]- 650

Krillin- 1,620
[Battle Worn]- 300
[Weakened Genki Dama]- 8,350

Yajirobi- 500



Gohan- 1,500
[Angered]- 3,750
[Battle Worn]- 500
[Oozaru]-5,000
Namek Saga:
Vegeta vs Cui
Gohan- 1,480
Krillin- 1,480

Vegeta-15,000
[Full Power]- 24,000

Cui- 18,050
Namek Warriors vs Freeza's Henchmen
Namek Warriors-1,000
[Full Power]-3,000

Freeza’s Henchmen- 1,200

Dodoria- 20,000


Gohan- 1,700
Krillin- 1,700
Vegeta- 24,000
Vegeta vs Zarbon
Krillin- 1,700
[Potential Unlocked]-7,500

Vegeta- 24,000
[Healed]- 30,000

Zarbon- 22,000
[Transformed]- 28,820
[Post Vegeta Cheap Shot]- 25,000

Gohan-1,700
[Potential unlocked]-8,000
The Ginyu Force
Gohan- 8,000
[Powered Up]- 10,500
[Healed]- 30,000

Krillin- 7,500
[Powered Up]- 10,500

Guldo-3,000


Vegeta- 30,000
[Full Power]- 36,000
[Final Flash]- 39,600
[Healed]- 75,000

Recoome- 45,000
[Eraser Canon]- 54,000
[Post Eraser Canon]- 35,000

Burter- 45,000

Jeice- 45,000
[Crusher Ball]- 49,500

Goku- 5,000
[Holding Back]- 65,000
[Full Power]- 90,000
[Kaio-Ken]- 180,000


Ginyu- 70,000
[Max. power]- 120,000
Body Switching
Ginyu [In Goku's body]- 23,000

Gohan- 30,000
Krillin- 24,000

Jeice- 45,000
Vegeta- 75,000

Freeza- 240,000

Nail- 3,000
[Full Power]-42,000
[Post Arm Regeneration]- 35,000
[Post Freeza Beating]- 10
Freeza Saga:
The Fight Against Freeza ( Form 1)
Vegeta- 75,000
[Powered up]- 485,000


Gohan- 30,000
Krillin- 24,000


Freeza- 240,000
[Full Power]- 530,000

Piccolo- 6,400
[Fused With Nail]- 1,410,000

Nail- 10
The Fight Against Freeza (Form 2)
Freeza- 1,060,000
[Powered up]- 1,370,000
[Powered up]- 1,590,000

Gohan- 30,000
[Enraged]- 1,120,000
[Healed]-100,000


Piccolo- 1,410,000
[Weighted clothes off]- 1,785,000

Vegeta- 485,000

Krillin-24,000
The Fight Against freeza (Form 3)
Freeza- 2,385,000

Piccolo-1,785,000

Gohan- 100,000
[Enraged]- 2,100,000
[Masenko]- 2,352,000

Vegeta- 485,000
[Lowered Guard]- 18,000

Krillin- 24,000
The Fight Against Freeza (True Form)
Vegeta- 2,500,000

Freeza- 3,000,000
[Not Using Hands]- 3,200,000
[50% Power]- 81,090,000
[Injured]- 72,180,000

Piccolo- 1,785,000
[Borrowed Ki]- 1,875,000

Krillin- 24,000
[Kamehameha]- 31,200
[After Giving Ki]- 4,000
[Kamehameha]- 5,200

Gohan-100,000
[After Giving Ki]- 20,000

Goku- 3,000,000
[Small Kamehamehas]- 3,300,000
[Kaio-Ken]- 6,000,000
[Kaio-Ken x10]- 30,000,000
[Kaio-Ken x20]- 60,000,000
[Kaio-Ken x20 + Kamehameha]-78,000,000
[Genki Dama]- 90,000,000
SSJ Goku vs Freeza
Goku- 3,000,000
[SSJ]- 165,000,000
[Kamehameha]- 214,500,000

Freeza- 72,180,000
[About 70% Power]- 113,000,000
[100% Power]- 162,180,000
[Force Field]- 210,834,000
[Battle Worn]- 125,000,000
Trunks Saga:
The Mysterious Youth
Gohan- 100,000
Krillin- 30,000
Tien- 28,000
Yamcha- 14,000
Chaotzu-12,000
Vegeta- 3,000,000

Piccolo- 1,975,000
[Theoretically Unweighted]- 2,500,000

King cold-5,000,000

Mecha Freeza- 5,250,000
[Theoretical 100%]- 175,000,000

Trunks- 5
[Full Power]- 7,600,000
[SSJ]- 190,000,000

Goku- 4,875,000
[SSJ]- 195,000,000
Android Saga:
The Fight Against #19 & #20
Cyborg 19- 30,000,000
[Kamehameha Absorbed]- 210,000,000
[Goku’s energy Absorbed]- 214,500,000
[Arms Ripped Off]- 75,000,000


Yamcha- 48,000
[Ki Absorbed, Injured]- 50

Goku [Sick]- 7,500,000
[Sick SSJ]- 150,000,000
[Kamehameha]- 180,000,000
[Sick/Battle Worn]- 5,000,000
[Energy Absorbed]- 500,000


Vegeta- 21,250,000
[SSJ]- 425,000,000
[Energy Lost]- 250,000,000
[Big bang]- 300,000,000
[Post Big Bang, Base]- 10,000,000


Cyborg 20- 60,000,000
[Yamcha’s Energy Absorbed]- 60,047,000
[Vegeta’s Ki Blast absorbed]- 65,047,000
[Piccolo’s Energy Absorbed]- 70,047,000
[Injured]- 45,000,000

Gohan- 3,000,000
Krillin- 120,000
Tien- 120,000

Piccolo- 71,100,000
[Weighted Clothes off]- 90,000,000

Trunks- 14,000,000
[SSJ]- 350,000,000
Vegeta vs #18
Cyborg 20- 70,047,000
Krillin- 120,000

Cyborg 18- 430,000,000
[Full Power]- 510,000,000

Cyborg 17- 600,000,000

Vegeta- 21,250,000
[SSJ]- 425,000,000


Trunks- 14,000,000
[SSJ]- 350,000,000

Tien- 120,000
Piccolo- 90,000,000
Piccolo Vs Imperfect Cell
Kami- 305

Piccolo-71,100,000
[Fused with Kami]- 474,000,000
[Post Arm Regeneration]- 469,000,000

Imperfect Cell- 395,000,000
[Kamehameha]- 414,750,000
[Absorbed Piccolo’s Arm]- 400,000,000

Goku- 21,000,000
Trunks- 14,000,000
Vegeta- 21,250,000
Gohan- 3,000,000
Piccolo vs # 17
Cyborg 17- 500,000,000
[Force Field]- 650,000,000
[Full Power]- 600,000,000

Piccolo- 474,000,000
[Weighted Clothes Off]- 600,000,000

Imperfect Cell- 750,000,000
Imperfect Cell vs #16
Cyborg 17- 600,000,000
Piccolo- 600,000,000
Cyborg 18- 510,000,000

Cyborg 16- 750,000,000
[Hell’s Flash]- 825,000,000

Imperfect Cell- 750,000,000
Perfect Cell Saga:
Vegeta vs Cell
Semi-Perfect Cell- 1,000,000,000
[Full Power]- 1,500,000,000

Cyborg 16- 750,000,000
Cyborg 18- 510,000,000

Piccolo- 600,000,000

Tien- 120,000
[Shin Ki Ko Ho]- 960,000,000

Vegeta- 110,000,000
[SSJ]- 1,100,000,000
[ASSJ]- 2,200,000,000
[Final Flash]- 3,740,000,000

Trunks- 95,000,000
[ASSJ]- 1,900,000,000

Krillin- 120,000

Perfect Cell- 2,000,000,000
[“A Little Serious”]- 3,000,000,000
Trunks vs Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell- 3,000,000,000
[Buffed Up]- 4,500,000,000

Trunks- 1,900,000,000
[USSJ, Holding Back]- 2,660,000,000
[USSJ, Full Power]- 3,800,000,000
[Base]- 95,000,000
Post ROSAT
FPSSJ Goku- 750,000,000
[About Half Power]- 3,720,000,000

Cell- 3,000,000,000

Vegeta- 110,000,000
[Post ROSAT]- 250,000,000

Trunks- 95,000,000
[Post ROSAT]- 235,000,000

Piccolo- 474,000,000
[Post ROSAT, Weighted Clothes]- 1,120,000,000
The Future
Gohan- 6,000,000
[SSJ]- 180,000,000

Young Trunks- 100,000
[SSJ]- 5,500,000

Cyborg 17- 225,000,000
[Full power]- 600,000,000

Cyborg 18- 225,000,000
[Full power]- 510,000,000

Trunks- 7,600,000
[SSJ]- 190,000,000
Cell Vs Goku
Mr. Satan- 18

FPSSJ Goku- 3,000,000,000
[Quick kamehameha]- 2,500,000,000
[Full Power]- 7,500,000,000
[Full Power Warp Kamehameha]-11,250,000,000
[Post Kamehameha]- 4,750,000,000
[Battle Worn]- 800,000,000

Cell- 3,000,000,000
[Powered Up]- 8,100,000,000
[Kamehameha]- 10,530,000,000
[Post Goku’s Kamehameha]- 4,950,000,000
[Battle Worn]- 3,400,000,000
Cell vs Gohan
FPSSJ Gohan- 8,800,000,000
[Reluctant to fight]- 7,200,000,000
[SSJ2]- 44,000,000,000
[Quick Kamehameha]- 35,000,000,000
[Wounded]- 34,000,000,000
[Kamehameha]- 44,200,000,000
[Full Power Kamehameha]- 51,000,000,000

Cell- 8,100,000,000
[Full Power]- 15,000,000,000
[Full Power Kamehameha]- 22,500,000,000
[Buff]- 22,500,000,000
[Semi-Perfect]- 1,500,000,000
[Zenkai]- 30,000,000,000
[Kamehameha]- 45,000,000,000

Cyborg 16- 750,000,000

Cell Juniors- 2,500,000,000

FPSSJ Goku- 800,000,000

Vegeta- 250,000,000
[SSJ]- 2,500,000,000

Trunks- 235,000,000
[SSJ]- 2,350,000,000

Piccolo- 1,150,000,000
[Weighted Clothes Off]- 1,400,000,000

Tien- 120,000
Yamcha- 48,000
Krillin- 120,000


Cyborg 18- 510,000,000
Freeing the Future
Trunks- 235,000,000
[SSJ]- 2,350,000,000

Cyborg 18- 510,000,000
Cyborg 17- 600,000,000

Imperfect Cell- 195,000,000
[Full Power]- 800,000,000
Majin Buu Saga:
Pre-Tournament
Gohan- 1,200,000,000
[MSSJ, Relaxed]- 2,000,000,000
[MSSJ, Training at 50%]- 3,600,000,000

Videl- 22

Goten- 400,000,000
[MSSJ]- 3,000,000,000

Vegeta- 2,000,000,000
[MSSJ, Relaxed]- 3,500,000,000
[MSSJ, 50%]- 5,000,000,000

Trunks- 410,000,000
[MSSJ]- 3,075,000,000

Piccolo- 1,180,000,000

Krillin- 110,000

Mr. Satan- 18

Tournament
Trunks- 420,000,000
[MSSJ]- 3,150,000,000

Goten- 410,000,000
[“Kamekameha”]- 430,500,000
[MSSJ]- 3,075,000,000

Mr. Satan- 18

Krillin- 115,000

Piccolo- 1,200,000,000

Videl- 25

Spopovitch- 20
[Serious]- 100

Yamu- 100

Gohan- 1,250,000,000
[SSJ2]- 37,500,000,000
The Fight against Babidi
Piccolo- 1,200,000,000
Krillin- 115,000

Vegeta- 2,000,000,000
Pui Pui- 25,000

Goku- 3,000,000,000
[MSSJ]- 12,000,000,000
[SSJ2 Burst]- 60,000,000,000


Yakon- 3,200,000,000

Mr. Satan- 18
Killer- 14
Jewel- 15

Cyborg 18- 510,000,000

Goten- 410,000,000
[MSSJ]- 3,075,000,000

Trunks- 420,000,000
[MSSJ]- 3,150,000,000

Gohan- 1,250,000,000
[MSSJ]- 7,500,000,000

Dabura- 7,875,000,000
The Fight Against Majin Buu
Goku- 3,000,000,000
[MSSJ]- 12,000,000,000
[SSJ2]- 60,000,000,000


Vegeta- 2,000,000,000
[Majin MSSJ]- 12,000,000,000
[Majin SSJ2]- 60,000,000,000
[Injured]- 45,000,000,000
[Self-Destruct]- 180,000,000,000

MSSJ Gohan- 7,500,000,000
[Kamehameha]- 9,750,000,000

Fat Buu- 3,000,000,000
[Powered Up]- 25,000,000,000
[2nd Power Up]- 40,000,000,000
[Angry Explosion]- 165,000,000,000
[Full power]- 165,000,000,000

Dabura- 7,875,000,000
[Injured]- 2,500,000,000

Trunks- 420,000,000
[MSSJ]- 3,150,000,000

Goten- 410,000,000
[MSSJ]- 3,075,000,000
Fusion Saga:
Goku vs Buu
Gohan- 1,250,000,000
[MSSJ]- 7,500,000,000

Fat Buu- 165,000,000,000
[Kamehameha]- 173,325,000,000

Trunks- 420,000,000
[MSSJ]- 3,150,000,000
[Lowered]- 3,075,000,000

Goten- 410,000,000
[MSSJ]- 3,075,000,000

Goku- 3,000,000,000
[MSSJ]- 12,000,000,000
[SSJ2]- 60,000,000,000
[SSJ3]- 180,000,000,000
[Quick Kamehameha]- 175,000,000,000
Gotenks Is Born
Gohan- 1,250,000,000
[Post Sword Training]- 4,000,000,000

Goten- 410,000,000

Trunks- 420,000,000
[Lowered]- 410,000,000

Gotenks- 41,000,000,000
[MSSJ]- 205,000,000,000
[Fat]- 2
[Old]- 1

Fat Buu- 165,000,000,000


Buu of Wrath- 100,000,000,000
Mr. Buu- 65,000,000,000

Shin Buu- 300,000,000,000
Gotenks vs Shin Buu
Goten- 410,000,000
[Post Rosat]- 500,000,000

Trunks- 420,000,000
[Post Rosat]- 500,000,000

Shin Buu- 300,000,000,000
[Serious]- 1,200,000,000,000

Gotenks- 50,000,000,000
[MSSJ]- 250,000,000,000
[Super Ghost Kamikaze]- 300,000,000,000
[SSJ3]- 1,250,000,000,000

Piccolo- 1,200,000,000
Gohan vs Shin Buu
SSJ3 Gotenks- 1,250,000,000,000
[Base]- 50,000,000,000

Shin Buu- 1,200,000,000,000
[Gotenks & Piccolo Absorbed]- 2,451,200,000,000
[Kamehameha]- 2,573,760,000,000

Goten- 500,000,000
Trunks- 500,000,000
Piccolo- 1,200,000,000

Gohan- 4,000,000,000
[Power Unlocked]- 1,700,000,000,000

Tien- 200,000
[Shin Ki Ko Ho]- 1,600,000,000

Goku- 3,000,000,000
[SSJ3]- 180,000,000,000
Vegito vs Gohan buu
Gotenks Buu- 2,451,200,000,000
[Piccolo Characteristics]- 1,202,200,000,000
[Gohan Absorbed]- 2,902,200,000,000
[Super Ghost Kamikaze]- 3,482,640,000,000
[Shin Buu]- 1,200,000,000,000
[Buff Buu]- 1,320,800,000,000
[Kid Buu]- 176,000,000,000

Gohan- 1,700,000,000,000

Goku- 3,000,000,000
[MSSJ]- 12,000,000,000

Vegeta- 2,000,000,000
[MSSJ]- 10,000,000,000

Vegito- 1,500,000,000,000
[MSSJ]- 7,500,000,000,000
The Fight Against Kid Buu
MSSJ Goku- 12,000,000,000
[SSJ2]- 60,000,000,000
[SSJ3]- 180,000,000,000
[Kamehameha]- 234,000,000,000
[Base, Tired]- 2,000,000,000
[Rejuvenated MSSJ]- 12,000,000,000
[Genki Dama]- 500,000,000,000


MSSJ Vegeta- 10,000,000,000
[Base]- 2,000,000,000
[SSJ2]- 50,000,000,000

Kid Buu- 176,000,000,000
[Kamehameha]- 184,800,000,000

Mr. Satan- 18
Mr. Buu- 65,000,000,000
10 Years after Buu fight
Goku- 5,000,000,000
Goten- 450,000,000
Trunks- 450,000,000
Vegeta- 2,500,000,000
Pan- 1,000,000

Uub- 15
[Enraged]- 4,700,000,000

Mr. Satan- 16
Mr. Buu- 65,000,000,000
Gohan- 1,650,000,000,000
Krillin- 100,000
Cyborg 18- 510,000,000
Videl- 22
Yamcha- 40,000
Piccolo- 1,400,000,000



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Not trying to "complain about the multipliers" but I thought I'd just point a few things out.

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Kamehameha
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[Normal]- 1.3x User’s Power
[Full Power]- 1.5x User’s Power
[Super Kamehameha]- 2.5x User’s Power
[Quick Kamehameha]- Equal to or Below User’s Power
[Beginner’s Kamehameha]- 1.05x User’s Power
[Small Kamehameha]- 1.1x User’s Power
Things like that are unnessecery. Just put Kamehameha, up to X times stronger. Super Kamehameha, up to Z times stronger.

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[Shin Ki Ko Ho]- 8,000x User’s Power
My god, thats far too high IMO.

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Super Saiyajin
[New SSJ]- 55-45x User’s Base
[Trained SSJ]- 40-25x User’s Base
[Well Trained SSJ]- 20-10x User’s Base
[MSSJ]- 7.5-4x User’s Base
[SSJ Fusion]- 5x Fusion base


I took this seriously until I saw that. Why would a "well trained SSJ" not just Kaoken once they dropped below 20x?

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Zarbon- 22,000
[Transformed]- 28,820
[Post Vegeta Cheap Shot]- 25,000
Also, I have every reason to believe that Monster Zarbon was still stronger. If you don't believe me, read that part again and take note of things like "Excellent, Zarbon will underestimate me" and the fact that Vegeta had to blind him to beat him.
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Semi-Perfect Cell- 1,150,000,000
[Full Power]- 1,500,000,000

Vegeta- 100,000,00
[SSJ]- 1,000,000,000

1. You're missing a 0 here.
2. I think SSJ Vegeta is stronger than Semi-Perfect Cell's first appearance... weren't you the one that always held to that belief as well.


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Cell Juniors- 2,500,000,000

FPSSJ Goku- 1,500,000,000

Piccolo- 1,150,000,000
[Weighted Clothes Off]- 1,400,000,000
Why is Goku still stronger than Piccolo here? Vegeta, Trunks, and Piccolo were the only ones that were seen standing.

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Trunks- 235,000,000
[SSJ]- 2,350,000,000

Cyborg 18- 510,000,000
Cyborg 17- 600,000,000

Imperfect Cell- 900,000,000
Trunks fights Imperfect Cell three years after he fights the Androids, just in case you didn't know. Perhaps you should add a Imperfect Cell (suppressed) level, because Trunks had an advantage over that in base.

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Pre-Tournament

Vegeta- 2,000,000,000
[MSSJ, 50%]- 5,000,000,000

The Fight Against Kid Buu

MSSJ Vegeta- 10,000,000,000
I think you messed something up here.

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It's an improvement from your last list and I can tell you put a lot of thought into it.

P.S. What happened to movie levels?
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Not trying to "complain about the multipliers" but I thought I'd just point a few things out.


I’m afraid you did exactly what I asked everyone not to do so I’ll only respond to your last point, because honestly it’s only from your opinion and close to nobody else’s and it isn’t worth bringing up a whole other argument for. Maybe in some other thread, but not here.

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Also, I have every reason to believe that Monster Zarbon was still stronger. If you don't believe me, read that part again and take note of things like "Excellent, Zarbon will underestimate me" and the fact that Vegeta had to blind him to beat him.


You should give Vegeta a little more credit. He’s not going to bank a victory on a dirty trick. What if it didn’t work? You could tell by the way Vegeta was so confident he knew he was stronger.

Vegeta being happy about Zarbon underestimating him doesn’t necessarily mean Zarbon was stronger. In fact there’s no indication of that at all. All we see is that Zarbon couldn’t hit Vegeta and nothing else. If anything, Zarbon underestimating him would add to the small advantage Vegeta had, giving him more confidence in victory.

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1. You're missing a 0 here.
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2. I think SSJ Vegeta is stronger than Semi-Perfect Cell's first appearance... weren't you the one that always held to that belief as well.
Argh, I was hoping to avoid typing mistakes. Thanks for pointing that out.

Ya, I did originally, but I figured Vegeta’s SSJ form was either close enough to Cell that he didn't have confidence in an easy victory, or he was weaker, and from there I just went with what was easier for a multiplier. That was making SSJ Vegeta a little weaker than Semi-Perfect Cell.

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Why is Goku still stronger than Piccolo here? Vegeta, Trunks, and Piccolo were the only ones that were seen standing.


I’ll make the change.

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Trunks fights Imperfect Cell three years after he fights the Androids, just in case you didn't know. Perhaps you should add a Imperfect Cell (suppressed) level, because Trunks had an advantage over that in base.


Ya I knew that, but I don’t really think he got any stronger or weaker so I figured I would keep it as one level. Well he did power up so I’ll make the change.

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I think you messed something up here.


What did I mess up there? MSSJ Vegeta= 10,000,000,000. His multiplier is 5x so his base would be 5x weaker= 2,000,000,000. He’s at 50% while testing Trunks and 10,000,000,000 divided by 2 is 5,000,000,000. It all looks right to me…

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It's an improvement from your last list and I can tell you put a lot of thought into it.
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P.S. What happened to movie levels?
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback.

I’m going to post it either tomorrow or Sunday.
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Ya, I did originally, but I figured Vegeta’s SSJ form was either close enough to Cell to not having confidence in an easy victory, or he was weaker, and from there I just went with what was easier for a multiplier. That was making SSJ Vegeta a little weaker than Semi-Perfect Cell.

Maybe reading this thread will change your mind.

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What did I mess up there? MSSJ Vegeta= 10,000,000,000. His multiplier is 5x so his base would be 5x weaker= 2,000,000,000. He’s at 50% while testing Trunks and 10,000,000,000 divided by 2 is 5,000,000,000. It all looks right to me…


That he didn't get an increase from Great Saiyaman Saga to the Buu Saga?
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Lol, it did change my mind. I interpret what Trunk's meant by Vegeta going ASSJ "Arleady?" as a fact that Vegeta could have contended with Cell and had the advantage, but in my opinion it would be a small one. While Vegeta is one to brag and show off, I think his reason for going ASSJ was more because he didn't feel the advantage was great enough if he went SSJ.

I doubt he got any stronger over that month. His thoughts seem to indicate that he would mostly focus on training Trunks, and that time he was under the 150gs seemed more like casual training to me.
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