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(20) Super Saiyan 2
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Well I noticed there have been a lot of power level threads lately and I’m sure most of you are tired of seeing them, but I’m sure you can make it through just one more list. ;)
Here’s my newest (And last) Dragonball Z power level list. I figured I’d go all-out and re-read the whole series just to get every last detail there is to show about power levels (That are important at least). There’s just one thing I’d like to point out before anyone has a look at this. This list depends heavily on multipliers. Almost everything has a multiplier or some kind of method to the posted level. I’d rather not have to deal with people complaining about certain things having a multiplier, or multipliers in general for that matter, so if you have to, just ignore them. Well that’s all. Be sure to tell me what you think of the list or what you think I should change. Dragonball Z Multipliers: Techniques Kamehameha [Normal]- 1.3x User’s Power [Full Power]- 1.5x User’s Power [Super Kamehameha]- 2.5x User’s Power [Quick Kamehameha]- Equal to or Below User’s Power [Beginner’s Kamehameha]- 1.05x User’s Power [Small Kamehameha]- 1.1x User’s Power Light of Death [Fully Charged]- 5x User’s Power [2nd Time, Fully Charged]- 4x User’s Power Self-Destruct [Cultivar]- 1.3x User’s Power [Chaotzu]- 1.5x User’s Power [Vegeta]- 4x User’s Power Ki Ko Ho [Normal]- 4x User’s Power [Shin Ki Ko Ho]- 8,000x User’s Power Masenko [Normal]- 1.12x User’s Power Galickgun [Fully Charged]- 1.5x User’s Power Final Flash [Against Recoome]- 1.1x User’s Power [Against Cell]- 1.7x User’s Power Eraser Cannon [Used By Recoome]- 1.2x User’s Power Crusher Ball [Used By Jeice]- 1.1x User’s Power Force Field [Used By Frieza]- 1.3x User’s Power [Used by #17]- 1.3x User’s Power Big Bang [Used By Vegeta]- 1.2x User’s Power Hell’s Flash [Used by #16]- 1.1x User’s Power Super Ghost Kamikaze [Used by Gotenks & Buu]- 1.2x User’s Power Transformations Oozaru [Great Ape]- 10x User’s Power Zarbon’s Suppression [Monster Zarbon]- 1.31x User’s Suppressed Power Freeza’s Suppressions [2nd Form]- 3x 1st Form [3rd Form]- 1.5x 2nd Form [True Form]- 68x 3rd Form Super Saiyajin [New SSJ]- 55-45x User’s Base [Trained SSJ]- 40-25x User’s Base [Well Trained SSJ]- 20-10x User’s Base [MSSJ]- 7.5-4x User’s Base [SSJ Fusion]- 5x Fusion base Super Saiyajin 2 [New SSJ2]- 5x SSJ Power [Trained SSJ2]- 4x SSJ Power [SSJ2 Fusion]- 2.5x SSJ Fusion’s Power Super Saiyajin 3 [Full Power]- 3x SSJ2 Power [SSJ3 Fusion]- 2x SSJ2 Fusion’s Power Cell’s Forms [Semi Perfect Cell]- 2x Imperfect Cell’s Power [Perfect Cell]- 10x Semi Perfect Cell’s Power Majin Buu [Shin Buu]- 12x Buu of Wrath’s Power [Gotenks Buu]- Shin Buu+SSJ3 Gotenks+Piccolo’s Power [Piccolo Buu]- Shin Buu+Goten+Trunks+Piccolo’s Power [Gohan Buu]- Shin Buu+Gohan+Goten+Trunks+Piccolo’s Power [Buff Buu]- 1.1x Shin Buu’s Power [Kid Buu]- 7.5x Weaker Than Buff Buu [Fat Buu]- 8x Weaker Than Buff Buu Power Ups Weighted Clothes [Goku’s]- Around 80% Power [Piccolo’s]- Around 79% Power Kaio-Ken [Normal]- 2x User’s Power [Kaio-Ken x3]- 3x User’s Power [Kaio-Ken x4]- 4x User’s Power [Kaio-Ken x10]- 10x User’s Power [Kaio-Ken x20]- 20x User’s Power Beyond Super Saiyajin [ASSJ]- 2x SSJ’s Power [USSJ]- 2x ASSJ’s Power [Cell’s Demonstration]- 1.5x User’s Power Mystic Power Up [Gohan]- 425x User’s Power Fusion Fusion Dance [Gotenks]- 100x Both User’s Power. Potara Fusion [Vegito]- 500x Strongest User’s Power Saiyan Saga: Raditz vs Goku&Piccolo: Raditz- 770 [Full Power]- 1,220 [Injured]- 675 Farmer- 5 Piccolo- 322 [Weighted Clothes off]- 408 [Arm Lost]- 266 [Light of Death]- 1,330 [2nd Light of Death]- 1,064 Goku- 334 [Weighted Clothes off]- 416 [Mid-Charge Super Kamehameha]- 924 [Fully Charged Super Kamehameha]- 1,040 [Injured]- 340 Gohan-1 [Trapped in Space Pod]-710 [Enraged]- 1,307 Preparing For The Saiyans Lord Enma-1,500 Kaio-2,800 Goku-416 Roshi-139 Krillin-206 [After Training with Kami]-1,030 Tien-250 [After Training with Kami]-1,250 Yamcha-177 [After Training with Kami]-885 Chaotzu-140 [After Training with Kami]-700 Yajirobi-150 [After Training with Kami]-450 Arrival of Saiyans Piccolo-1,220 [Full Power]- 2,320 Gohan- 981 Krillin-1,083 [Full Power]- 1,620 [Concentrated Blast]- 7,920 [Split into 6 Attacks]- 1,320 Yamcha- 995 [Full Power]- 1,295 Tien-1,140 [Full Power]-1,875 Chaotzu-900 Cultivars- 1,200 [Self-Destruct]- 1,560 Nappa vs Z Fighters Nappa- 2,000 [Powered Up]- 3,010 [Enraged]- 6,560 [Full Power]- 8,000 Chaotzu-1,050 [Self-Destruct]- 1,575 Tien-1,875 [Lost his arm]-625 [Ki Ko Ho]- 2,500 Piccolo- 2,320 Krillin- 1,620 Gohan-1,500 [Quick jump in power]-2,500 [Masenko]-2,800 Goku- 5,000 [Full Power]- 8,200 [Quick Kamehameha]- 8,000 [Kaio-Ken]- 16,400 Goku vs Vegeta Goku- 8,200 [Kaio-Ken]- 16,400 [Kaio-Ken x3]- 24,600 [Post Kaio-Ken x3]- 5,000 [Kaio-Ken x3 + Kamehameha]- 22,500 [Kaio-Ken x4 +Kamehameha]- 30,000 [Post Kaio-Ken x4 Kamehameha]- 2,500 [Kaio-Ken]- 5,000 [Genki Dama]- 85,000 Vegeta- 14,000 [Serious]- 16,500 [Full Power]- 18,650 [Post Kaio-Ken x3 Thrashing]- 15,000 [Galicgun]- 22,500 [Post Galickgun/Kamehameha Struggle]- 7,500 [Post Energy Ball]- 5,000 [Oozaru]- 50,000 [Post Oozaru]- 4,500 [Hit by Genki Dama]- 650 Krillin- 1,620 [Battle Worn]- 300 [Weakened Genki Dama]- 8,350 Yajirobi- 500 Gohan- 1,500 [Angered]- 3,750 [Battle Worn]- 500 [Oozaru]-5,000 Namek Saga: Vegeta vs Cui Gohan- 1,480 Krillin- 1,480 Vegeta-15,000 [Full Power]- 24,000 Cui- 18,050 Namek Warriors vs Freeza's Henchmen Namek Warriors-1,000 [Full Power]-3,000 Freeza’s Henchmen- 1,200 Dodoria- 20,000 Gohan- 1,700 Krillin- 1,700 Vegeta- 24,000 Vegeta vs Zarbon Krillin- 1,700 [Potential Unlocked]-7,500 Vegeta- 24,000 [Healed]- 30,000 Zarbon- 22,000 [Transformed]- 28,820 [Post Vegeta Cheap Shot]- 25,000 Gohan-1,700 [Potential unlocked]-8,000 The Ginyu Force Gohan- 8,000 [Powered Up]- 10,500 [Healed]- 30,000 Krillin- 7,500 [Powered Up]- 10,500 Guldo-3,000 Vegeta- 30,000 [Full Power]- 36,000 [Final Flash]- 39,600 [Healed]- 75,000 Recoome- 45,000 [Eraser Canon]- 54,000 [Post Eraser Canon]- 35,000 Burter- 45,000 Jeice- 45,000 [Crusher Ball]- 49,500 Goku- 5,000 [Holding Back]- 65,000 [Full Power]- 90,000 [Kaio-Ken]- 180,000 Ginyu- 70,000 [Max. power]- 120,000 Body Switching Ginyu [In Goku's body]- 23,000 Gohan- 30,000 Krillin- 24,000 Jeice- 45,000 Vegeta- 75,000 Freeza- 240,000 Nail- 3,000 [Full Power]-42,000 [Post Arm Regeneration]- 35,000 [Post Freeza Beating]- 10 Freeza Saga: The Fight Against Freeza ( Form 1) Vegeta- 75,000 [Powered up]- 485,000 Gohan- 30,000 Krillin- 24,000 Freeza- 240,000 [Full Power]- 530,000 Piccolo- 6,400 [Fused With Nail]- 1,410,000 Nail- 10 The Fight Against Freeza (Form 2) Freeza- 1,060,000 [Powered up]- 1,370,000 [Powered up]- 1,590,000 Gohan- 30,000 [Enraged]- 1,120,000 [Healed]-100,000 Piccolo- 1,410,000 [Weighted clothes off]- 1,785,000 Vegeta- 485,000 Krillin-24,000 The Fight Against freeza (Form 3) Freeza- 2,385,000 Piccolo-1,785,000 Gohan- 100,000 [Enraged]- 2,100,000 [Masenko]- 2,352,000 Vegeta- 485,000 [Lowered Guard]- 18,000 Krillin- 24,000 The Fight Against Freeza (True Form) Vegeta- 2,500,000 Freeza- 3,000,000 [Not Using Hands]- 3,200,000 [50% Power]- 81,090,000 [Injured]- 72,180,000 Piccolo- 1,785,000 [Borrowed Ki]- 1,875,000 Krillin- 24,000 [Kamehameha]- 31,200 [After Giving Ki]- 4,000 [Kamehameha]- 5,200 Gohan-100,000 [After Giving Ki]- 20,000 Goku- 3,000,000 [Small Kamehamehas]- 3,300,000 [Kaio-Ken]- 6,000,000 [Kaio-Ken x10]- 30,000,000 [Kaio-Ken x20]- 60,000,000 [Kaio-Ken x20 + Kamehameha]-78,000,000 [Genki Dama]- 90,000,000 SSJ Goku vs Freeza Goku- 3,000,000 [SSJ]- 165,000,000 [Kamehameha]- 214,500,000 Freeza- 72,180,000 [About 70% Power]- 113,000,000 [100% Power]- 162,180,000 [Force Field]- 210,834,000 [Battle Worn]- 125,000,000 Trunks Saga: The Mysterious Youth Gohan- 100,000 Krillin- 30,000 Tien- 28,000 Yamcha- 14,000 Chaotzu-12,000 Vegeta- 3,000,000 Piccolo- 1,975,000 [Theoretically Unweighted]- 2,500,000 King cold-5,000,000 Mecha Freeza- 5,250,000 [Theoretical 100%]- 175,000,000 Trunks- 5 [Full Power]- 7,600,000 [SSJ]- 190,000,000 Goku- 4,875,000 [SSJ]- 195,000,000 Android Saga: The Fight Against #19 & #20 Cyborg 19- 30,000,000 [Kamehameha Absorbed]- 210,000,000 [Goku’s energy Absorbed]- 214,500,000 [Arms Ripped Off]- 75,000,000 Yamcha- 48,000 [Ki Absorbed, Injured]- 50 Goku [Sick]- 7,500,000 [Sick SSJ]- 150,000,000 [Kamehameha]- 180,000,000 [Sick/Battle Worn]- 5,000,000 [Energy Absorbed]- 500,000 Vegeta- 21,250,000 [SSJ]- 425,000,000 [Energy Lost]- 250,000,000 [Big bang]- 300,000,000 [Post Big Bang, Base]- 10,000,000 Cyborg 20- 60,000,000 [Yamcha’s Energy Absorbed]- 60,047,000 [Vegeta’s Ki Blast absorbed]- 65,047,000 [Piccolo’s Energy Absorbed]- 70,047,000 [Injured]- 45,000,000 Gohan- 3,000,000 Krillin- 120,000 Tien- 120,000 Piccolo- 71,100,000 [Weighted Clothes off]- 90,000,000 Trunks- 14,000,000 [SSJ]- 350,000,000 Vegeta vs #18 Cyborg 20- 70,047,000 Krillin- 120,000 Cyborg 18- 430,000,000 [Full Power]- 510,000,000 Cyborg 17- 600,000,000 Vegeta- 21,250,000 [SSJ]- 425,000,000 Trunks- 14,000,000 [SSJ]- 350,000,000 Tien- 120,000 Piccolo- 90,000,000 Piccolo Vs Imperfect Cell Kami- 305 Piccolo-71,100,000 [Fused with Kami]- 474,000,000 [Post Arm Regeneration]- 469,000,000 Imperfect Cell- 395,000,000 [Kamehameha]- 414,750,000 [Absorbed Piccolo’s Arm]- 400,000,000 Goku- 21,000,000 Trunks- 14,000,000 Vegeta- 21,250,000 Gohan- 3,000,000 Piccolo vs # 17 Cyborg 17- 500,000,000 [Force Field]- 650,000,000 [Full Power]- 600,000,000 Piccolo- 474,000,000 [Weighted Clothes Off]- 600,000,000 Imperfect Cell- 750,000,000 Imperfect Cell vs #16 Cyborg 17- 600,000,000 Piccolo- 600,000,000 Cyborg 18- 510,000,000 Cyborg 16- 750,000,000 [Hell’s Flash]- 825,000,000 Imperfect Cell- 750,000,000 Perfect Cell Saga: Vegeta vs Cell Semi-Perfect Cell- 1,000,000,000 [Full Power]- 1,500,000,000 Cyborg 16- 750,000,000 Cyborg 18- 510,000,000 Piccolo- 600,000,000 Tien- 120,000 [Shin Ki Ko Ho]- 960,000,000 Vegeta- 110,000,000 [SSJ]- 1,100,000,000 [ASSJ]- 2,200,000,000 [Final Flash]- 3,740,000,000 Trunks- 95,000,000 [ASSJ]- 1,900,000,000 Krillin- 120,000 Perfect Cell- 2,000,000,000 [“A Little Serious”]- 3,000,000,000 Trunks vs Perfect Cell Perfect Cell- 3,000,000,000 [Buffed Up]- 4,500,000,000 Trunks- 1,900,000,000 [USSJ, Holding Back]- 2,660,000,000 [USSJ, Full Power]- 3,800,000,000 [Base]- 95,000,000 Post ROSAT FPSSJ Goku- 750,000,000 [About Half Power]- 3,720,000,000 Cell- 3,000,000,000 Vegeta- 110,000,000 [Post ROSAT]- 250,000,000 Trunks- 95,000,000 [Post ROSAT]- 235,000,000 Piccolo- 474,000,000 [Post ROSAT, Weighted Clothes]- 1,120,000,000 The Future Gohan- 6,000,000 [SSJ]- 180,000,000 Young Trunks- 100,000 [SSJ]- 5,500,000 Cyborg 17- 225,000,000 [Full power]- 600,000,000 Cyborg 18- 225,000,000 [Full power]- 510,000,000 Trunks- 7,600,000 [SSJ]- 190,000,000 Cell Vs Goku Mr. Satan- 18 FPSSJ Goku- 3,000,000,000 [Quick kamehameha]- 2,500,000,000 [Full Power]- 7,500,000,000 [Full Power Warp Kamehameha]-11,250,000,000 [Post Kamehameha]- 4,750,000,000 [Battle Worn]- 800,000,000 Cell- 3,000,000,000 [Powered Up]- 8,100,000,000 [Kamehameha]- 10,530,000,000 [Post Goku’s Kamehameha]- 4,950,000,000 [Battle Worn]- 3,400,000,000 Cell vs Gohan FPSSJ Gohan- 8,800,000,000 [Reluctant to fight]- 7,200,000,000 [SSJ2]- 44,000,000,000 [Quick Kamehameha]- 35,000,000,000 [Wounded]- 34,000,000,000 [Kamehameha]- 44,200,000,000 [Full Power Kamehameha]- 51,000,000,000 Cell- 8,100,000,000 [Full Power]- 15,000,000,000 [Full Power Kamehameha]- 22,500,000,000 [Buff]- 22,500,000,000 [Semi-Perfect]- 1,500,000,000 [Zenkai]- 30,000,000,000 [Kamehameha]- 45,000,000,000 Cyborg 16- 750,000,000 Cell Juniors- 2,500,000,000 FPSSJ Goku- 800,000,000 Vegeta- 250,000,000 [SSJ]- 2,500,000,000 Trunks- 235,000,000 [SSJ]- 2,350,000,000 Piccolo- 1,150,000,000 [Weighted Clothes Off]- 1,400,000,000 Tien- 120,000 Yamcha- 48,000 Krillin- 120,000 Cyborg 18- 510,000,000 Freeing the Future Trunks- 235,000,000 [SSJ]- 2,350,000,000 Cyborg 18- 510,000,000 Cyborg 17- 600,000,000 Imperfect Cell- 195,000,000 [Full Power]- 800,000,000 Majin Buu Saga: Pre-Tournament Gohan- 1,200,000,000 [MSSJ, Relaxed]- 2,000,000,000 [MSSJ, Training at 50%]- 3,600,000,000 Videl- 22 Goten- 400,000,000 [MSSJ]- 3,000,000,000 Vegeta- 2,000,000,000 [MSSJ, Relaxed]- 3,500,000,000 [MSSJ, 50%]- 5,000,000,000 Trunks- 410,000,000 [MSSJ]- 3,075,000,000 Piccolo- 1,180,000,000 Krillin- 110,000 Mr. Satan- 18 Tournament Trunks- 420,000,000 [MSSJ]- 3,150,000,000 Goten- 410,000,000 [“Kamekameha”]- 430,500,000 [MSSJ]- 3,075,000,000 Mr. Satan- 18 Krillin- 115,000 Piccolo- 1,200,000,000 Videl- 25 Spopovitch- 20 [Serious]- 100 Yamu- 100 Gohan- 1,250,000,000 [SSJ2]- 37,500,000,000 The Fight against Babidi Piccolo- 1,200,000,000 Krillin- 115,000 Vegeta- 2,000,000,000 Pui Pui- 25,000 Goku- 3,000,000,000 [MSSJ]- 12,000,000,000 [SSJ2 Burst]- 60,000,000,000 Yakon- 3,200,000,000 Mr. Satan- 18 Killer- 14 Jewel- 15 Cyborg 18- 510,000,000 Goten- 410,000,000 [MSSJ]- 3,075,000,000 Trunks- 420,000,000 [MSSJ]- 3,150,000,000 Gohan- 1,250,000,000 [MSSJ]- 7,500,000,000 Dabura- 7,875,000,000 The Fight Against Majin Buu Goku- 3,000,000,000 [MSSJ]- 12,000,000,000 [SSJ2]- 60,000,000,000 Vegeta- 2,000,000,000 [Majin MSSJ]- 12,000,000,000 [Majin SSJ2]- 60,000,000,000 [Injured]- 45,000,000,000 [Self-Destruct]- 180,000,000,000 MSSJ Gohan- 7,500,000,000 [Kamehameha]- 9,750,000,000 Fat Buu- 3,000,000,000 [Powered Up]- 25,000,000,000 [2nd Power Up]- 40,000,000,000 [Angry Explosion]- 165,000,000,000 [Full power]- 165,000,000,000 Dabura- 7,875,000,000 [Injured]- 2,500,000,000 Trunks- 420,000,000 [MSSJ]- 3,150,000,000 Goten- 410,000,000 [MSSJ]- 3,075,000,000 Fusion Saga: Goku vs Buu Gohan- 1,250,000,000 [MSSJ]- 7,500,000,000 Fat Buu- 165,000,000,000 [Kamehameha]- 173,325,000,000 Trunks- 420,000,000 [MSSJ]- 3,150,000,000 [Lowered]- 3,075,000,000 Goten- 410,000,000 [MSSJ]- 3,075,000,000 Goku- 3,000,000,000 [MSSJ]- 12,000,000,000 [SSJ2]- 60,000,000,000 [SSJ3]- 180,000,000,000 [Quick Kamehameha]- 175,000,000,000 Gotenks Is Born Gohan- 1,250,000,000 [Post Sword Training]- 4,000,000,000 Goten- 410,000,000 Trunks- 420,000,000 [Lowered]- 410,000,000 Gotenks- 41,000,000,000 [MSSJ]- 205,000,000,000 [Fat]- 2 [Old]- 1 Fat Buu- 165,000,000,000 Buu of Wrath- 100,000,000,000 Mr. Buu- 65,000,000,000 Shin Buu- 300,000,000,000 Gotenks vs Shin Buu Goten- 410,000,000 [Post Rosat]- 500,000,000 Trunks- 420,000,000 [Post Rosat]- 500,000,000 Shin Buu- 300,000,000,000 [Serious]- 1,200,000,000,000 Gotenks- 50,000,000,000 [MSSJ]- 250,000,000,000 [Super Ghost Kamikaze]- 300,000,000,000 [SSJ3]- 1,250,000,000,000 Piccolo- 1,200,000,000 Gohan vs Shin Buu SSJ3 Gotenks- 1,250,000,000,000 [Base]- 50,000,000,000 Shin Buu- 1,200,000,000,000 [Gotenks & Piccolo Absorbed]- 2,451,200,000,000 [Kamehameha]- 2,573,760,000,000 Goten- 500,000,000 Trunks- 500,000,000 Piccolo- 1,200,000,000 Gohan- 4,000,000,000 [Power Unlocked]- 1,700,000,000,000 Tien- 200,000 [Shin Ki Ko Ho]- 1,600,000,000 Goku- 3,000,000,000 [SSJ3]- 180,000,000,000 Vegito vs Gohan buu Gotenks Buu- 2,451,200,000,000 [Piccolo Characteristics]- 1,202,200,000,000 [Gohan Absorbed]- 2,902,200,000,000 [Super Ghost Kamikaze]- 3,482,640,000,000 [Shin Buu]- 1,200,000,000,000 [Buff Buu]- 1,320,800,000,000 [Kid Buu]- 176,000,000,000 Gohan- 1,700,000,000,000 Goku- 3,000,000,000 [MSSJ]- 12,000,000,000 Vegeta- 2,000,000,000 [MSSJ]- 10,000,000,000 Vegito- 1,500,000,000,000 [MSSJ]- 7,500,000,000,000 The Fight Against Kid Buu MSSJ Goku- 12,000,000,000 [SSJ2]- 60,000,000,000 [SSJ3]- 180,000,000,000 [Kamehameha]- 234,000,000,000 [Base, Tired]- 2,000,000,000 [Rejuvenated MSSJ]- 12,000,000,000 [Genki Dama]- 500,000,000,000 MSSJ Vegeta- 10,000,000,000 [Base]- 2,000,000,000 [SSJ2]- 50,000,000,000 Kid Buu- 176,000,000,000 [Kamehameha]- 184,800,000,000 Mr. Satan- 18 Mr. Buu- 65,000,000,000 10 Years after Buu fight Goku- 5,000,000,000 Goten- 450,000,000 Trunks- 450,000,000 Vegeta- 2,500,000,000 Pan- 1,000,000 Uub- 15 [Enraged]- 4,700,000,000 Mr. Satan- 16 Mr. Buu- 65,000,000,000 Gohan- 1,650,000,000,000 Krillin- 100,000 Cyborg 18- 510,000,000 Videl- 22 Yamcha- 40,000 Piccolo- 1,400,000,000 Last edited by Cableguy15; 06-22-2008 at 11:13 PM. |
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Not trying to "complain about the multipliers" but I thought I'd just point a few things out.
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I’m afraid you did exactly what I asked everyone not to do so I’ll only respond to your last point, because honestly it’s only from your opinion and close to nobody else’s and it isn’t worth bringing up a whole other argument for. Maybe in some other thread, but not here. Quote:
You should give Vegeta a little more credit. He’s not going to bank a victory on a dirty trick. What if it didn’t work? You could tell by the way Vegeta was so confident he knew he was stronger. Vegeta being happy about Zarbon underestimating him doesn’t necessarily mean Zarbon was stronger. In fact there’s no indication of that at all. All we see is that Zarbon couldn’t hit Vegeta and nothing else. If anything, Zarbon underestimating him would add to the small advantage Vegeta had, giving him more confidence in victory. Quote:
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Lol, it did change my mind. I interpret what Trunk's meant by Vegeta going ASSJ "Arleady?" as a fact that Vegeta could have contended with Cell and had the advantage, but in my opinion it would be a small one. While Vegeta is one to brag and show off, I think his reason for going ASSJ was more because he didn't feel the advantage was great enough if he went SSJ.
I doubt he got any stronger over that month. His thoughts seem to indicate that he would mostly focus on training Trunks, and that time he was under the 150gs seemed more like casual training to me. |
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