About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. - Page 5

Dupe of USSJed · 06-18-2008

Gah, stupid, but definitely possible.

Also, if the multiplier decreases at all, then it must decrease below x20. It makes no sense for it to start at x50, then decrease to x25 and stop decreasing. WTF idiot idea would that be?

Kaio · 06-18-2008

You keep putting words in my mouth. . . Stop. I never said the multiplier stops at 25x. What I was saying was that we don't know for sure if the super saiyan multiplier has even shrunk that low in the Majin Buu saga; and even if it did in the Majin Buu saga, super saiyan two and three were figured out, so it wouldn't even matter.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-18-2008

Ok, what words did I put in your mouth? Quote them, would you?

Duo · 06-18-2008

There's also the chance that Goku's body became less accustomed to the Kaio-ken when he started using Super Saiya'jin, and so by the time the Boo arc hit, he couldn't use it like he used to.

Too many possibilities. I don't think the Kaio-ken should be a part of the analysis, is what I'm getting at.

Devilz · 06-18-2008

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Originally Posted by Duo

Too many possibilities. I don't think the Kaio-ken should be a part of the analysis, is what I'm getting at.

I agree with that.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-19-2008

Good reasoning, if someone can get rid of the Kaoken, then possibilities open up for all sorts of wacky theories.

Devilz · 06-19-2008

Kaioken just gives Goku too big of an advantage over other characters and AT doesn't want that. It'll be like giving Vegeta a tail to go Oozaru and not Goku.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-19-2008

Did Goku sustain a serious head injury at any point after he turned SSJ? Preferably early on. Perhaps he forgot the attack?

Kaio · 06-19-2008

Through out the whole story, he gets his face smashed in; oh, did I mention he gets blown up too?

Dupe of USSJed · 06-19-2008

Ok, so when #19 punched Goku in the face he forgot the Kaoken, simple as that?

Devilz · 06-19-2008

When #19 grabbed Goku's face and absorbed his energy he absorbed some of his brain cells away.

~~JC#1~~ · 06-19-2008

There really isn't any evidence of a decreasing multiplier.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-19-2008

Kaoken=Forgotten

SSJ is a 1.5x multiplier. Face it cuz its the truth.

Oh yeah, it decreases to x1.23 later on.

~~JC#1~~ · 06-19-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

Kaoken=Forgotten

SSJ is a 1.5x multiplier. Face it cuz its the truth.

Oh yeah, it decreases to x1.23 later on.

wtf?

Can someone tell me why anyone thinks SS multiplier decreases!?

Dupe of USSJed · 06-19-2008

Sarcasm.

They think it decreases because of the Buu saga I think. A decreasing multiplier allows them to say like

Theoretical Example
Goku(Base) 100,000,000
Goku SSJ 200,000,000
Yakon 150,000,000

They use the kili's as evidence, even though THEY PROVE NOTHING

06-18-2008	#61 (permalink)
Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. Gah, stupid, but definitely possible. Also, if the multiplier decreases at all, then it must decrease below x20. It makes no sense for it to start at x50, then decrease to x25 and stop decreasing. WTF idiot idea would that be?

06-18-2008	#62 (permalink)
Kaio (15) Super Namekian Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 439 Rep Power: 8	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. You keep putting words in my mouth. . . Stop. I never said the multiplier stops at 25x. What I was saying was that we don't know for sure if the super saiyan multiplier has even shrunk that low in the Majin Buu saga; and even if it did in the Majin Buu saga, super saiyan two and three were figured out, so it wouldn't even matter.

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. Ok, what words did I put in your mouth? Quote them, would you?

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Duo (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts: 5,259 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 27	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. There's also the chance that Goku's body became less accustomed to the Kaio-ken when he started using Super Saiya'jin, and so by the time the Boo arc hit, he couldn't use it like he used to. Too many possibilities. I don't think the Kaio-ken should be a part of the analysis, is what I'm getting at. __________________ "Christianity is not about building an absolutely secure little niche in the world where you can live with your perfect little wife and your perfect little children in your beautiful little house where you have no gays or minority groups anywhere near you. Christianity is about learning to love like Jesus loved and Jesus loved the poor and Jesus loved the broken."

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. Good reasoning, if someone can get rid of the Kaoken, then possibilities open up for all sorts of wacky theories.

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. Did Goku sustain a serious head injury at any point after he turned SSJ? Preferably early on. Perhaps he forgot the attack?

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Kaio (15) Super Namekian Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 439 Rep Power: 8	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. Through out the whole story, he gets his face smashed in; oh, did I mention he gets blown up too?

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. Ok, so when #19 punched Goku in the face he forgot the Kaoken, simple as that?

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~~JC#1~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,806 Rep Power: 0	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. There really isn't any evidence of a decreasing multiplier.

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. Kaoken=Forgotten SSJ is a 1.5x multiplier. Face it cuz its the truth. Oh yeah, it decreases to x1.23 later on.

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. Sarcasm. They think it decreases because of the Buu saga I think. A decreasing multiplier allows them to say like Theoretical Example Goku(Base) 100,000,000 Goku SSJ 200,000,000 Yakon 150,000,000 They use the kili's as evidence, even though THEY PROVE NOTHING