About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. - Page 4

gad_is_here · 06-15-2008

Maybe due to 100x gravity, Goku was able to master his 20x kaioken. When Goku goes SSJ, his body adopts to it, but it isn't the case in kaioken. It's just a power up. Goku's body can't handle it

Dupe of USSJed · 06-16-2008

So Goku went from being able to use Kaoken, to not being able to use it, for no reason?

Duo · 06-16-2008

Well, it's not like Kaio-ken was a transformation. Even the x10 Kaio-ken was used in brief attack bursts.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-16-2008

Goku: 100
Cell: 900

Goku(SSJ): 300 (if x3)
Cell>>Goku

Goku(Kaoken):2000 (x20)
Goku>>Cell

Which would you use as Goku?

Duo · 06-16-2008

Chop stick sauce!

Kaio · 06-17-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by USSJed

[...]Decreasing multiplier=Impossible (Unless it decreases to x20 or higher)

*DISPROVES!!!!!!! WITHOUT A DOUBT!

So, in other words, it doesn't disprove the decreasing multiplier explanation. Also, you're forgetting that super saiyan two and three were figured out.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-17-2008

I don't know what SSJ2 and SSJ3 have to do with this, but that statement is directed at the people who believe SSJ to be a x20 or less boost. Namely Uki1234, with his x3 boost. The decreasing multiplier theory, is that SSJ multiplier will decrease all the way down to x1, at which point you no longer need it as you have reached maximum power. A Theory where SSJ goes from x50 down to x20 and stops decreasing is just retarded.

Kaio · 06-17-2008

Kaio-ken could've not been used because super saiyan two and three were probably better tools. And are you agreeing or disagreeing with a decreasing multiplier?

Dupe of USSJed · 06-17-2008

Disagreeing. I think that if the SSJ multiplier dropped below x20, why not use the Kaoken instead.

uki1234 · 06-17-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by USSJed

Disagreeing. I think that if the SSJ multiplier dropped below x20, why not use the Kaoken instead.

Because according to kaio-sama, any kaioken higher than 2x can be potentially lethal, if you make slightest mistake, and as you have noticed any kiaoken higher than 2x is used as a desparation move, when Goku would be already dead without using it.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-17-2008

So? If your SSJ is x3, and your opponent is 6x stronger than you. Why not Kaokenx20 and kill him in an instant? Rather than staying SSJ and getting owned?

gad_is_here · 06-17-2008

Maybe cause the SSJ multiplier was never 3x?????

Dupe of USSJed · 06-17-2008

No?! Impossible. But the Kili meter so totally proved that Goku increased by x3 when SSJ.

Kaio · 06-18-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by USSJed

Disagreeing. I think that if the SSJ multiplier dropped below x20, why not use the Kaoken instead.

Like I said: Super saiyan two and three; or maybe the multiplier didn't decrease to something lower than 20x.

Duo · 06-18-2008

3.75x, actually.

And it could be argued that, given the mastery over Super Saiya'jin him and Gohan attained prior to the Cell Game, Goku only pulled out a fraction of his transformed state's power.

It's possible.

06-15-2008	#46 (permalink)
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Duo (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts: 5,259 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 27	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. Well, it's not like Kaio-ken was a transformation. Even the x10 Kaio-ken was used in brief attack bursts. __________________ "Christianity is not about building an absolutely secure little niche in the world where you can live with your perfect little wife and your perfect little children in your beautiful little house where you have no gays or minority groups anywhere near you. Christianity is about learning to love like Jesus loved and Jesus loved the poor and Jesus loved the broken."

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. Goku: 100 Cell: 900 Goku(SSJ): 300 (if x3) Cell>>Goku Goku(Kaoken):2000 (x20) Goku>>Cell Which would you use as Goku?

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Duo (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts: 5,259 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 27	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. Chop stick sauce! __________________ "Christianity is not about building an absolutely secure little niche in the world where you can live with your perfect little wife and your perfect little children in your beautiful little house where you have no gays or minority groups anywhere near you. Christianity is about learning to love like Jesus loved and Jesus loved the poor and Jesus loved the broken."

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. I don't know what SSJ2 and SSJ3 have to do with this, but that statement is directed at the people who believe SSJ to be a x20 or less boost. Namely Uki1234, with his x3 boost. The decreasing multiplier theory, is that SSJ multiplier will decrease all the way down to x1, at which point you no longer need it as you have reached maximum power. A Theory where SSJ goes from x50 down to x20 and stops decreasing is just retarded.

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Kaio (15) Super Namekian Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 439 Rep Power: 8	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. Kaio-ken could've not been used because super saiyan two and three were probably better tools. And are you agreeing or disagreeing with a decreasing multiplier?

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. Disagreeing. I think that if the SSJ multiplier dropped below x20, why not use the Kaoken instead.

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. So? If your SSJ is x3, and your opponent is 6x stronger than you. Why not Kaokenx20 and kill him in an instant? Rather than staying SSJ and getting owned?

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gad_is_here (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: I go with the naked ladies[;)] Posts: 2,507 Blog Entries: 7 Rep Power: 77	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. Maybe cause the SSJ multiplier was never 3x????? __________________ Nobody's perfect and since I'm nobody... Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. Avoid fruits and nuts. You are what you eat. Jim Davis All true wisdom is found on T-shirts. Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. No?! Impossible. But the Kili meter so totally proved that Goku increased by x3 when SSJ.

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Duo (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts: 5,259 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 27	Re: About Mystic/Ultimate Gohan & decreasing ssj multiplier. 3.75x, actually. And it could be argued that, given the mastery over Super Saiya'jin him and Gohan attained prior to the Cell Game, Goku only pulled out a fraction of his transformed state's power. It's possible. __________________ "Christianity is not about building an absolutely secure little niche in the world where you can live with your perfect little wife and your perfect little children in your beautiful little house where you have no gays or minority groups anywhere near you. Christianity is about learning to love like Jesus loved and Jesus loved the poor and Jesus loved the broken."