gad_is_here

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Madness

Nah, it's just that you're stupid enough to stick in our minds

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Duo

Let's just say that the Super Saiya'jin transformation functions on an "additive" basis, which has been discussed.

Now then, what if training in one's normal state only increased the power -of- your normal state, and training in one's Super Saiya'jin state increased the amount added to your normal states transformation into Super Saiya'jin?

That's how the additive theory was originally presented to me, so that's how I've had the tenancy to look at it, even though I don't really subscribe too strongly to any theory.

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TobiGoodBoy

I will always think that it stayed at the x50 multiplyer.

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gad_is_here

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Duo

You'd better go tell Babidi.

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"Christianity is not about building an absolutely secure little niche in the world where you can live with your perfect little wife and your perfect little children in your beautiful little house where you have no gays or minority groups anywhere near you. Christianity is about learning to love like Jesus loved and Jesus loved the poor and Jesus loved the broken."

TobiGoodBoy

He's dead.

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Duo

But the actor still lives. No one really dies in DBZ.

Except Broli.

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"Christianity is not about building an absolutely secure little niche in the world where you can live with your perfect little wife and your perfect little children in your beautiful little house where you have no gays or minority groups anywhere near you. Christianity is about learning to love like Jesus loved and Jesus loved the poor and Jesus loved the broken."

Dupe of USSJed

Kaoken disproves* anything except a x20 or higher multiplier. Simple as that. Additive theory=impossible (Which really sucks...) x3 Theory=Impossible (Good riddance!) Decreasing multiplier=Impossible (Unless it decreases to x20 or higher)

*DISPROVES!!!!!!! WITHOUT A DOUBT!

uki1234

Stop trolling will ya?

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First World War, the last defense of Belgrade:
"Soldiers! Heroes! The supreme command has erased our regiment from its records. Our regiment has been sacrificed for the honor of Belgrade and the Fatherland. Therefore, you no longer have to worry for your lives - they do not exist anymore. So, forward to glory! For King and Fatherland! Long live the king! Long live Belgrade!"
Major Dragutin Gavrilovic - Oct. 1915

Dupe of USSJed

What me?

Madness

That isn't trolling =/

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Dupe of USSJed

Especially since Kaoken does disprove a less than 20 multiplier. I would actually believe it if SSJ was a x20, because then it would be Kaoken, but minus the 50-50 chance of self destructing...

uki1234

It is. The multiplier was shown billion times to be lower than 20x in buu saga.

To USSJed:

And what makes you think that with his base power in buu saga, Goku couldn't do 100x kaioken, if kaioken existed??

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First World War, the last defense of Belgrade:
"Soldiers! Heroes! The supreme command has erased our regiment from its records. Our regiment has been sacrificed for the honor of Belgrade and the Fatherland. Therefore, you no longer have to worry for your lives - they do not exist anymore. So, forward to glory! For King and Fatherland! Long live the king! Long live Belgrade!"
Major Dragutin Gavrilovic - Oct. 1915

Dupe of USSJed

I have not said he could not do a x100 kaoken. But WE KNOW FOR CERTAIN HE CAN USE A x20 KAOKEN AT LEAST, THEREFORE A x19 SSJ IS WORTHLESS.

A billion? Show me 10 proven examples and I will admit you are right about everything and are king of the universe. Otherwise, you must become my ass slave. Deal? Ok Deal then.