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Old 06-03-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Default Which of these fights was the best?

Remember I'm talking about the ANIME all fillers included.

Now keep in mindI'm only talking about these 3:

1. Goku vs. Cell
2. Majin Vegeta vs. Goku
3. SSJ3 Goku vs. Kid Buu

Which do you like best, worst and the middle one and why?

I'd say I liked either the Cell vs. Goku fight or Majin Vegeta I'm leaning towards Majin Vegeta vs. Goku. So I'd say:

1. Majin Vegeta (Best fight)
2. Cell vs. Goku
3. SSJ3 Goku vs. Kid Buu- Tad too many Ki Blasts

Opinions anyone?

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Default Re: Which of these fights was the best?

Pffft, DBZ fights suck, it all comes down to who has the most "power levelz"

Where's Tien VS Goku or even Goku VS Piccolo?

Anyway, SSJ3 Goku VS Kid Buu is first, because it was interesting...

Cell VS Goku is second, I only really remember the instant kamehameha

Majin Vegeta VS Goku sucks and is last. Thats one of those crappy "I hit you, then you hit me" equal fights. In real life if two equal strength people fought one would most likely get a lucky hit giving him an unbeatable advantage.
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Default Re: Which of these fights was the best?

Agreed 100% with you, SSJ4 Vegito.

1. Majin Vegeta vs. Goku
2. Goku vs. Cell
3. SSJ3 Goku vs. Kid Buu

I don't know if I was just losing interest in Buu arc but I didn't find Goku vs Kid Buu very interesting at all. I've always loved the Vegeta vs Goku rivalry so it's only common sense that I'd love their fights. I pretty much love all Saiyan vs. Saiyan fights to be honest.
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I was talking about which one BETWEEN THESE THREE.
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Default Re: Which of these fights was the best?

1. Goku vs. Cell- Originally this fight was disapointing to me, but after seeing it more than once it was definitely a good fight. I wouldn't call it the best, but still a good fight.

2.SSJ3 Goku vs Kid Buu- Just ok, but it felt an awful lot like Toriyama was just giving Goku fans what they wanted to see. It was annoying because the whole storyline of Gohan being a successor was killed off, which I didn't like.

3. Majin Vegeta vs. Goku- One of my least favorite fights of the series. It felt very much like it wasn't neccisary and it really made Vegeta a less credible character in my opinion. Doesn't even come close to their first fight which had meaning.
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Default Re: Which of these fights was the best?

If that was directed at me, tell me honestly. Did you edit your original post after I posted.

And Amen to that Cable, I hated Majin Vegeta VS Goku.
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Default Re: Which of these fights was the best?

I just read your Post when you asked where are the 17 vs. Piccolo fights. I just didn't read your whole Post, but then later I realized I made a mistake when I read the rest, sorry about that.
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Default Re: Which of these fights was the best?

Goku vs Cell
It was the only one of the given three that actually had that classic DBZ kung-fu style fighting in it, therefore it was based more on skill, not "power levelz"

Goku vs Chibi Boo
Some actual fighting in it, the only good thing about it is that Goku was actually outclassed in this fight.

Goku vs Majin Vegeta
No point to this fight at all. It was a Super Saiyan slug-fest, and unfortunately to say, it was the only canon Super Saiyan vs Super Saiyan battle. But as bad as this fight was, the manga version was even worse.
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Default Re: Which of these fights was the best?

1. Majin Vegeta vs. Goku
2. Goku vs. Cell
3. SSJ3 Goku vs. Kid Buu

Majin Vegeta vs Goku: It wasn't better then their first fight and not the best fight in the series, but the best out of the 3 here. IMO, it was the culmination of Vegeta's hatred towards Goku, and the fact that he was still one step behind. Plus AT knew this would be the end of the series and he wouldn't continue it past the Buu Saga, so why not go back to the roots of DBZ with one more Goku/Vegeta fight... at least for fans like me. Not only that but it was good, I think, for the story and fit in well. Also it was the best choreographed and drawn fight in the series.

Goku vs Cell: This was actually a very good fight. 2 very equally matched opponents, both with extreme will to win. Plus I can't lie, I love the fact that Goku quits and gives Gohan his chance. And Goku winds up dying... which was cool. But all in all a great fight, even though I'm not a fan of either Cell nor Goku.

SSJ3 Goku vs Kid Buu: This fight wasn't really bad, but it just really wasn't that good either, IMO. Kid Buu was kinda cool and funny at times, but the fight, at least to me, really wasn't intense, plus the fact that it was essentially Goku and Vegeta vs Kid Buu. Not saying that that in and of itself makes the fight bad, but it doesn't help when comparing only 2 characters against each other when that clearly wasn't the case. All in all it could've been done much better.
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1. Goku vs. Cell- Originally this fight was disapointing to me, but after seeing it more than once it was definitely a good fight. I wouldn't call it the best, but still a good fight.

2.SSJ3 Goku vs Kid Buu- Just ok, but it felt an awful lot like Toriyama was just giving Goku fans what they wanted to see. It was annoying because the whole storyline of Gohan being a successor was killed off, which I didn't like.

3. Majin Vegeta vs. Goku- One of my least favorite fights of the series. It felt very much like it wasn't neccisary and it really made Vegeta a less credible character in my opinion. Doesn't even come close to their first fight which had meaning.
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Default Re: Which of these fights was the best?

1. Goku vs Cell:
I was most anxious when I watched this fight. Goku said that he doesn't think that he can beat Cell, but he still went to fight him. I thought he discovered a secret technique that will allow him to win, like Vegeta's final flash, or that he and Gohan will beat Cell together. Cell is also a great villain. The fight itself had lot of surprises and thats what makes it the best of these three.

2. Majin Vegeta vs Goku:
Well, even though I dont like the idea of Vegeta returning evil, I did like that after 40 episodes of nothing since Cell games, there was a fight finally worth watching. Toei did the fight pretty well, though it didn't have any real surprising elements that will make it more interesting, like Goku vs Cell. So its only a good brute fight.

3. SSJ3 Goku vs Kid Buu:
I dont like this fight at all, even in anime. Kid Buu and his fighting style are lame compared to other two, and Goku seemed like he was more fighting with himself(to gain his power) than with kid buu...
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Hmm I suppose I like them in the order you first places.
Which one did I enjoy the most?
Cell Fight.
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Majin Vegeta vs Goku was the best of those 3 you mentioned...

However I put Piccolo vs 17 over those 3 listed.
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1. Goku vs. Cell
2. Majin Vegeta vs. Goku
3. SSJ3 Goku vs. Kid Buu
In hindsight, Son Goku vs. Complete Cell more or less felt like a warm up - not necessary considering that Goku knew he was in for defeat (but perhaps not but with a thought). The anime rendition had some good select moments, but overall the impact of the coda was lowered by lamentable animation and miffing fillers of Cell using techniques he shouldn't be able to use (the Shi Shin no Ken filler comes to mind).

Son Goku vs. "Majin" Vegeta was brief in the Manga but good for visual flair, but outside of being grounded with no pauses in pace, the anime did a good job as an overall. I felt that the fight was immersive enough that it was an effective escape (as most, but perhaps many fantasies are becoming less an escape and more a new depth of perception these days... I wouldn't say DBZ falls into that category, withal, I'm not trying to chastise it, as I feel letting such discrimation wantonly free to breed and then combating it is just giving into said abhorrance).

Chibi Boo vs. SSj3 Son Goku was okay in the Manga, but in the anime I felt that it had some of the best choreography I've gazed out at. TOEI did it justice for a change without any mitigating dips in quality (as I felt it was both somewhat witty and entertaining, which in a way shaped its mood).
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