Devilz

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The first involved insane x100 training but I still agree. The second, was a x30 Zenkai not a x50, but still ridiculous. But I have seen nothing to indicate that Tien did not make up that difference in his 310 days with King Kai. (And precious little to indicate that he did, but at least theres something...)

Devilz

I never said he received a 50x zenkai, but yeah.

Compare his training to Goku's and you see he's nowhere close.

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Ahh, my bad you said Zenkais not Zenkai

And how so?

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TobiGoodBoy

I probably could imagine them getting to about 100,000,000 but not much higher.

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SuperTien

Tien could probably kill SSVegeta or SSjGoku pre rosat with a sjin kikoho considering how 2nd form cell floated out of the pit with damage marks on himself.

The potential or power of a fighter doesn't always show the outcome as you may see it to be.

Not matter what Tien and the other humans would never be on the same level or stronger than the saiyans.

They where always at least being one step behind.

What I mean is even if it was possible for the huamns to achieve early Super Saiyan levels the saiyans would be far ahead thus still not able to defeat the saiyans unless they travels back in time.

As for the humans reaching the millions; I beleive how they trained affected the outcome. If one of tha saiyans would have trained them they perhaps would have become far stronger but the saiayns didn;t take the time to train with them. In the anime Goku asked them to train with him but they all decided to do it there own way.

The way they trained (because of earth)probably didn't have any where the same effect as king kai's.

At most it would have be a similar boost of kami training.

Most likely a simialr boost to there normal earth training years.

SSJBulma

Agreed

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Well duh, of course no human(except Uub) could beat a Saiyan unless they had extra time to train. I was saying that it is indeed possible for them to reach the level of a SSJ

SuperTien

hmm, Iam not saying it's impossible; Tien Held off 2nd form cell when 16, piccolo and 17/18 could not have; all we know he has a powerlevel of a super saiyan.

But I highly doubt they reached the low millions in 3 years with the training they received. They had already reached the best training had to offer so it was up to them for those 3 years.

If they would have trained with Goku then yes , they would have gotten a larger boost.

The low millions would make sense. If you really want to think about it Why would Tinshinhan, Kurrin, and Yamucha go to fight androids that are said to be stronger than Freeza with levels of below 1,000,000?

The humans all felt Cyborg freezer and King Cold's powerlevels, And at most Freeza was 50% or lower, up to 60,000,000.

I could say that the humans reached or supassed these supressed levels of freezer and cold to think they had a chance of helping against the terrible androids.

All Iam saying is that I will not say the humans didn't reach the millions in the android saga, but I'am not saying that they did.

It could be hypothetical that they are 40,000-1,500,000.

Earth traing just didn't benefit any of the z warriors, especially if they did it alone.

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It all depends on if SSJ is a x50 multiplier, if so, then more realistic levels would be like:

Android Saga

Goku(Base) 4 million
Goku(SSJ) 200 million

Tien(Base) 2 million

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Put Tien near base Goku! For the love of God, help me break through this antiquated thinking

Damn, how do you spell antiqutated?

SSJBulma

I'm hoping that's it.

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