Could Human Z Warriors.... - Page 7

Dupe of USSJed · 06-03-2008

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I never denied he could one day reach 150,000,000, given that he had an infinite amount of time.

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Originally Posted by USSJed
so possibly Tien could surpass SSJ as well.

Never, ever, ever, ever, ever.

:)

Devilz · 06-03-2008

Let me add to it then:

"Never, ever, ever, ever, ever... in a hundred years"

Yup I think that's better.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-03-2008

Alright then, so Tien at least could surpass SSJ with sufficient time (not 100 years, but it could take a while...)

What about Yamcha?
lol

Remixxx · 06-03-2008

In my opinion tien could also be easilly around SSJ....USSJED dont listen to some people here they are just gonna say that humans cant get a big power and gonna give tien a huge mutiplier like 800,000,000 for the SHINK KIKOHO

Dupe of USSJed · 06-03-2008

I highly doubt Tien is above SSJ, but I do find it plausible to place him at 75% of Base Goku's power. It fits in fine with my additive PL list, but sadly with a Multiplier list it makes Tien still a weak piece of crap...

Remixxx · 06-03-2008

well somewhere around where you have it...but not have him in the low millions atleat is a perfect example of stupididty...i m glad that my mind concerning him will never change.

the predator · 06-03-2008

woah I'm all for Tien being strong but some of you guys are totally overdoing it. Yeah there's no proof of his PL but come on you're totally stretching it out far now. Lol its funny there are two extremes one group is saying:

"Hey Tien is too weak"

the other

"Hey Tien is big and strong"

you're both extremist. (even though Tien is weak but not as weak as you guys put him to be). I'd say his PL becomes at around 5 000, 000 at the end of the show if he kept on training. Still not much but don't undervalue him so much as to believe that he couldn't reach 5000, 000 hell he went from a few 100s to 100, 000s so he can definetly make the transition to millions.

The only strong human in the series is Uub and he's no natural human.

gad_is_here · 06-03-2008

Tien rocks. Too bad the writers didn't make him what he could be

Dupe of USSJed · 06-03-2008

Tien managed to stay somewhere similar to Goku's level for over half of DB. The idea that it would change so massively is just crazy

Its like(using a theoretical power scale)

Goku:100
Tien:150
After a year of training
Goku:180
Tien:180
After a year of training
Goku:250
Tien:220
After ten years of training
Goku:500,000,000,000
Tien:100,000

What I try to put across, is that Tien doesn't really do much after the Saiyan Saga, so it is very hard to tell what his PL would be. And because of that, all the people that say "Duuhh, Tien is obviously at Captain Ginyu's strength" are idiots.

Jay · 06-03-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

Tien managed to stay somewhere similar to Goku's level for over half of DB. The idea that it would change so massively is just crazy

Its like(using a theoretical power scale)

Goku:100
Tien:150
After a year of training
Goku:180
Tien:180
After a year of training
Goku:250
Tien:220
After ten years of training
Goku:500,000,000,000
Tien:100,000

What I try to put across, is that Tien doesn't really do much after the Saiyan Saga, so it is very hard to tell what his PL would be. And because of that, all the people that say "Duuhh, Tien is obviously at Captain Ginyu's strength" are idiots.

Actually the idea that Tien and Goku's PL would divert massively isn't crazy at all. They are two different species. Goku is a Saiyan from the Planet Vegeta which has a much heavier gravity than Planet Earth, so as well as adapting to this environment as a baby as well as having adaptations build in genetically in his genes, it's not crazy. Tien is only a human from Planet Earth with a much weaker gravity.

Saiyan's also have Zenkais, every time they fight they grow much stronger, every time they get close to near death they recover to become even stronger.

Majuub said a good example once. If a human trained in cardiovascular exercise constantly, would he or she be as fast as a cheetah? The answer is no because they are two different speices, cheetahs are build for speed and humans aren't, just like saiyans are build for combat and humans's aren't.

- TGD

SSJBulma · 06-03-2008

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Originally Posted by gad_is_here

Tien rocks. Too bad the writers didn't make him what he could be

That's how I feel too.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-03-2008

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If a human trained in cardiovascular exercise constantly, would he or she be as fast as a cheetah?

I do see where your going with this, and in the real world yes, but according to DBZ, if you train hard enough you can pick up mountains and throw them at other mountains. The thing that baffles me is, why is it that at low levels characters like Tien and Yamcha can stay at around Goku's level for a long time, but then get left behind in the dust like that? Wouldn't it look more like this?

Goku:100
Tien:150
One year later
Goku:500
Tien:155
One year later
Goku:10,000,0000
Tien:156

SSJBulma · 06-03-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

One year later
Goku:10,000,0000
Tien:156

That's so not cool

Devilz · 06-03-2008

Goku received over a 50x increase in zenkais alone.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-03-2008

When? (not saying it didnt happen, but when?)

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: Could Human Z Warriors.... Alright then, so Tien at least could surpass SSJ with sufficient time (not 100 years, but it could take a while...) What about Yamcha? lol

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Remixxx (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Planet Neptune Posts: 3,458 Rep Power: 70	Re: Could Human Z Warriors.... In my opinion tien could also be easilly around SSJ....USSJED dont listen to some people here they are just gonna say that humans cant get a big power and gonna give tien a huge mutiplier like 800,000,000 for the SHINK KIKOHO __________________

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: Could Human Z Warriors.... I highly doubt Tien is above SSJ, but I do find it plausible to place him at 75% of Base Goku's power. It fits in fine with my additive PL list, but sadly with a Multiplier list it makes Tien still a weak piece of crap...

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Remixxx (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Planet Neptune Posts: 3,458 Rep Power: 70	Re: Could Human Z Warriors.... well somewhere around where you have it...but not have him in the low millions atleat is a perfect example of stupididty...i m glad that my mind concerning him will never change. __________________

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the predator (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,692 Rep Power: 14	Re: Could Human Z Warriors.... woah I'm all for Tien being strong but some of you guys are totally overdoing it. Yeah there's no proof of his PL but come on you're totally stretching it out far now. Lol its funny there are two extremes one group is saying: "Hey Tien is too weak" the other "Hey Tien is big and strong" you're both extremist. (even though Tien is weak but not as weak as you guys put him to be). I'd say his PL becomes at around 5 000, 000 at the end of the show if he kept on training. Still not much but don't undervalue him so much as to believe that he couldn't reach 5000, 000 hell he went from a few 100s to 100, 000s so he can definetly make the transition to millions. The only strong human in the series is Uub and he's no natural human.

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gad_is_here (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: I go with the naked ladies[;)] Posts: 2,507 Blog Entries: 7 Rep Power: 77	Re: Could Human Z Warriors.... Tien rocks. Too bad the writers didn't make him what he could be __________________ Nobody's perfect and since I'm nobody... Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. Avoid fruits and nuts. You are what you eat. Jim Davis All true wisdom is found on T-shirts. Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: Could Human Z Warriors.... Tien managed to stay somewhere similar to Goku's level for over half of DB. The idea that it would change so massively is just crazy Its like(using a theoretical power scale) Goku:100 Tien:150 After a year of training Goku:180 Tien:180 After a year of training Goku:250 Tien:220 After ten years of training Goku:500,000,000,000 Tien:100,000 What I try to put across, is that Tien doesn't really do much after the Saiyan Saga, so it is very hard to tell what his PL would be. And because of that, all the people that say "Duuhh, Tien is obviously at Captain Ginyu's strength" are idiots.

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,707 Rep Power: 202	Re: Could Human Z Warriors.... When? (not saying it didnt happen, but when?)