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Vegeta didn't disagree with bringing them there because of the power difference. Gohan nearly finished Buu with basic attacks, that means, Gohan is at least 1.4x more powerful then Super Buu, if not more. Goku stated he was weaker then this same Super Buu, which could have Gohan 2x more powerful then Goku.
An attack like the spirit bomb was actually a good idea, because every molecule of Buu has to be destroyed, and Vegeta wanted the earthlings to handle their own problems as he stated. He could've thought Buu would absorb them again or anything like that. Gohan would've thrashed Kid Buu, seriously he would've if he battled him.
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Adding more, I see no reason that SSJ Gotenks wouldn't have been 1.3x stronger than SSJ3 Goku. But SSJ3 Gotenks and Gohan far outstrip Goku. |
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And instead he could only call 911- GOHAN HELP US and with no doubt it would be finished in seconds. One stupid warrior that Vegeta.(Irony) |
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Vegeta said the earthlings need to defend their planet, not me. When Vegeta suggested they use the attack, Goku looked at him, and told him that it didn't work all of the other times it was used. Vegeta knew Buu could absorb, so it's very plausible that he didn't want to risk that, since it would ultimately be the end if Buu did that.
So he is dumb for that one. Goku thought his idea made more sense, so?
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Buu could absorb Gohan or Gotenks.
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The Genki Dama could lead to so many erros that calling for Gohan and exterminating Buu in the matter of seconds would be much smarter. Of course if Gohan is able to exterminate Buu in a matter of seconds. And how do you explain that Gohan's energy wasn't enough in the Genki Dama? |
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Spirit Bomb received only Gohan's relaxed power(which is far from full) IMO, and thats why it didn't have enough power to kill Buu in the beginning. The reason why he wasn't at his max, is same as why didn't Goten and Trunks fuse and went SSJ3 - Plot - Plot needed humans to participate and give their about 35,000,000,000 chi to the bomb (average 5 * 7,000,000,000 people...)
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And of course I knew that someone will use the "almighty bunghole (plothole)" argument. I just knew it. Something doesn't work.... Call for the plot device. Weak. |
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![]() For example(on Namek): Goku relaxed: 5,000 Goku(full power): 90,000 Gohan was pretty relaxed when he gave his power to Genki Dama... "Something doesn't work.... Call for the plot device." No. Are you trying to imply that Kid Buu > Mystic Gohan ![]() ![]() |
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Think of the Spirit Bomb with Gohan's energy as being a golf ball. Now, thrown hard enough, that golf ball could kill a man. However, Goku didn't have the energy to throw it hard enough, so they instead had to change the Spirit Bomb to something more like a concrete beach ball that would kill someone with just it's mass. That's how I see it anyway. And the fact that Gohan or Gotenks weren't brought in comes from purely out-of-text reasons. The fans and Bird Studios wanted Goku to kill Buu, whilst Toriyama wanted Gohan to do it. Toriyama relented, and the rest is history. |
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I know that Gohan is stronger. But not stronger for a degree that he would without any doubt obliterate Kid Buu in the matter of seconds. |
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But it's an explaination that works, and is actually valid. |
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![]() He is. The difference between SSJ3 Goku(this is EVEN without him knowing that he cant achieve his full power) and Super Buu is at least 1.5x. The difference between Gohan and Super Buu is at least 1.3x. So that makes Gohan at least 2 times more powerful than Kid Buu, which is enough to obliterate him with no effort...(not to mention that the difference between SSJ3 Goku and Super Buu is a lot higher since SSJ Gotenks ~ SSJ3 Goku) |
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