MFG 5.1 Anime & Manga Forums  

Go Back   MFG 5.1 Anime & Manga Forums > Anime & Manga > DragonBall / Z

DragonBall / Z Discuss and debate the canon events of the anime and manga by Akira Toriyama.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-04-2008   #316 (permalink)
(21) Majin Warrior
 
apocalypse1280's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Planet Earth, Home Of The Free
Posts: 1,561
Rep Power: 42
apocalypse1280 has a reputation beyond reputeapocalypse1280 has a reputation beyond reputeapocalypse1280 has a reputation beyond reputeapocalypse1280 has a reputation beyond reputeapocalypse1280 has a reputation beyond reputeapocalypse1280 has a reputation beyond reputeapocalypse1280 has a reputation beyond reputeapocalypse1280 has a reputation beyond reputeapocalypse1280 has a reputation beyond reputeapocalypse1280 has a reputation beyond reputeapocalypse1280 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to apocalypse1280
Default Re: Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Majuub View Post
In fact, you're somewhat right. Goku said something about them not being able to fuse anymore and Shin Buu replied:

So, you can't unite, what a chance.

He didn't say they were weaker but he came at them like they were nothing and he wasn't scared at all.
Thanks man. Finally an answer I was looking for. For some reason I could've sworn Super Buu said that, but I don't have any manga so what I thought I read before I obviously didn't. It's cool though.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by SSJ4 Vegito View Post
Although I have too admit Apocolypse knows the most and I would say he's worthy of being a GT "Guru"
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikumishi View Post
Who told you I was even a guy in the first place?
90% of DragonBall fans detest DragonBall GT. If you're one of the 10% of fans who actually like GT, post this in your signature.

A direct quote from Akira Toriyama himself on DragonBall GT: "I enjoyed the show, felt it captured the "Dragonball soul", and was pleased with the conclusion." - Haha, bitches!
apocalypse1280 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2008   #317 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Majuub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,127
Rep Power: 158
Majuub has a reputation beyond reputeMajuub has a reputation beyond reputeMajuub has a reputation beyond reputeMajuub has a reputation beyond reputeMajuub has a reputation beyond reputeMajuub has a reputation beyond reputeMajuub has a reputation beyond reputeMajuub has a reputation beyond reputeMajuub has a reputation beyond reputeMajuub has a reputation beyond reputeMajuub has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pober View Post
week is 7 day's :) i wrote 10 day's ;p i don't want use word's of physics, because you will not understand it ;) i tell you only one, 6,000 kg weight, you need around 90,000 ki to take it, and 21,000 kg you need around 5,000,000 ki to take it...rest count yourself... -.- and last statement Trunks have very big problem with around 4,500 kg-5,000 kg, this is his maksymum weight and that's why have problem with moving. You can count all number's in about,around...and his basic pre 10 day's training was less than Goku when fly on namek...

And, when many people count it, Trunks ki after 10 day's training, all said; can't be more than 2,000,000 ki...this result is of course in about around, but i accept misstake few thousand, but several millions?? look at distance between 2,000,000 and 40,000,000+ ki...and they give them this 40,000,000 ki+ without count anything and without proof on it...so how i can belive i something like Gotenksu Ssj > Goku Ssj3?? it's bullshit...if somebody told me Gotenksu Ssj > Goku Ssj, then ok i don't fight with him, because it could be...but 2 transformation more{Ssj2,Ssj3}?? never...
Man, we don't even understand simple words from you, I don't even want to imagine what it's like to see you typing physic words.
__________________
Majuub is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2008   #318 (permalink)
(28) Lord of Worlds
 
Dupe of USSJed's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything
Posts: 7,707
Rep Power: 202
Dupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ?

Alright, to be honest I could only glean a slight meaning from those words, but can they answer this.

ENTIRELY PLAUSIBLE POWER LEVELS

Majin Arc

Pre CoSaT

Goten Base:2,000,000,000
Goten SSJ:100,000,000,000

Trunks Base: 2,200,000,000
Trunks SSJ:110,000,000,000

Gotenks Base: 42,000,000,000
Gotenks SSJ: 2,100,000,000,000

So if their power levels were this high, what difference would 1.8 million make, thats the point I am trying to make, that you cannot assign a +1.8 million boost for a week in the CoSaT because you havent the faintest fucking clue what their power levels are at that point.
Dupe of USSJed is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2008   #319 (permalink)
(23) Final Warrior
 
Devilz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,564
Rep Power: 28
Devilz has a reputation beyond reputeDevilz has a reputation beyond reputeDevilz has a reputation beyond reputeDevilz has a reputation beyond reputeDevilz has a reputation beyond reputeDevilz has a reputation beyond reputeDevilz has a reputation beyond reputeDevilz has a reputation beyond reputeDevilz has a reputation beyond reputeDevilz has a reputation beyond reputeDevilz has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to Devilz
Default Re: Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ?

That's why you don't assign + boosts, you assign * boosts.
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by stefzed54
Saiyans get stronger from zenkais, not battles.
Devilz is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2008   #320 (permalink)
(28) Lord of Worlds
 
Dupe of USSJed's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything
Posts: 7,707
Rep Power: 202
Dupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ?

Precisely, which is why I thought he might mean x1.8 instead of +1,800,000

But even then, its impossible to give a definite increase for their time in the CoSaT.
Dupe of USSJed is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2008   #321 (permalink)
(16) Master of Kaio-ken
 
Pober's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 507
Rep Power: 3
Pober has a spectacular aura aboutPober has a spectacular aura aboutPober has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ?

Quote:
Goten Base:2,000,000,000
Goten SSJ:100,000,000,000

Trunks Base: 2,200,000,000
Trunks SSJ:110,000,000,000

Gotenks Base: 42,000,000,000
Gotenks SSJ: 2,100,000,000,000
Very nice...Trunks and Goten, their are strongest on base by Goku Ssj and Vegeta Ssj from Android Saga?

Or else better, Trunks Ssj and Goten Ssj ca.10-time's strongest than Goku MSsj from Cell Games. You are fine, you throw number's as shit on field. Take you from where, that big base, so? Gives merger 10-time's more only? There Veggetto Ssj would be nobody for Buu in belief your friend's from this forum(i mean about Gotenksu Ssj > Goku Ssj3). You can write what level has in your table Vegetto?
Pober is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2008   #322 (permalink)
(28) Lord of Worlds
 
Dupe of USSJed's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything
Posts: 7,707
Rep Power: 202
Dupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ?

You can not be reading, eyes of you check needing?

These level powers are possibly as same chance that any level powers of anyone (excepting of the coarse the author) writes, and the shutting up of you needs to happen if you cannot be proving your claims, which by the many arms of Vishu you need to be proving before you continue to spout bullshit.

Edit:

Vegetto is PL 500,000,000,000,000,000 on this list, and you cannot prove that it is impossible. So don't even try.
Dupe of USSJed is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2008   #323 (permalink)
(16) Master of Kaio-ken
 
Pober's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 507
Rep Power: 3
Pober has a spectacular aura aboutPober has a spectacular aura aboutPober has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ?

What PL Goku and Vegeta have?
Pober is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2008   #324 (permalink)
(28) Lord of Worlds
 
Dupe of USSJed's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything
Posts: 7,707
Rep Power: 202
Dupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ?

Normal 3,500,000,000
SSJ 175,000,000,000

And who cares, that is an example PL list. You could have an identical list with fifteen extra zeros on the end of each level and it would be just as acceptable.
Dupe of USSJed is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2008   #325 (permalink)
(23) Final Warrior
 
gad_is_here's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: I go with the naked ladies[;)]
Posts: 2,507
Blog Entries: 7
Rep Power: 77
gad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by USSJed View Post
You could have an identical list with fifteen extra zeros on the end of each level and it would be just as acceptable.
No it wouldn't
__________________
Nobody's perfect and since I'm nobody...

Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.

Avoid fruits and nuts. You are what you eat. Jim Davis

All true wisdom is found on T-shirts.

Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

gad_is_here is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2008   #326 (permalink)
(28) Lord of Worlds
 
Dupe of USSJed's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything
Posts: 7,707
Rep Power: 202
Dupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ?

You took it so literally... but out of curiosity why would adding fifteen extra zeros make the list unacceptable?
Dupe of USSJed is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2008   #327 (permalink)
(23) Final Warrior
 
gad_is_here's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: I go with the naked ladies[;)]
Posts: 2,507
Blog Entries: 7
Rep Power: 77
gad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ?

Cause it would be impossble to reach that level with the methods of training they had

But yeah. I guess I took it so literally:P
__________________
Nobody's perfect and since I'm nobody...

Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.

Avoid fruits and nuts. You are what you eat. Jim Davis

All true wisdom is found on T-shirts.

Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

gad_is_here is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2008   #328 (permalink)
(28) Lord of Worlds
 
Dupe of USSJed's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything
Posts: 7,707
Rep Power: 202
Dupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond reputeDupe of USSJed has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ?

Take a look at this list then

Goku (SSJ on Namek)
150,000,000

Frieza (100% on Namek)
120,000,000

Three years later

Goku (SSJ on Earth)
1,800,000,000

Trunks (SSJ on Earth)
400,000,000

Mecha Frieza
300,000,000

King Cold
310,000,000

Three Years later

Goku (SSJ)
12,000,000,000

Vegeta (SSJ)
16,600,000,000

Android #19
9,500,000,000

Android #20
11,500,000,000

Piccolo
11,000,000,000

Android #17
30,000,000,000

Android #18
35,000,000,000

Android #16
75,000,000,000

Imperfect Cell
25,000,000,000

Kamiccolo
38,000,000,000

Imperfect Cell #2
74,500,000,000

Semiperfect Cell
800,000,000,000

Super Vegeta
120,500,000,000,000

Perfect Cell
15,000,000,000,000,000,000

Super Trunks
16,000,000,000,000,000,000

Cell Games

Perfect Cell(Warming Up)
1,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Goku (MSSJ)
1,200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Gohan (MSSJ)
2,900,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Gohan (MSSJ)
210,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Super Perfect Cell
190,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Seven Years Later

Goten
1,200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Trunks
1,200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

No need to continue this absurdity, as gay as this list is, it could be true.
Dupe of USSJed is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2008   #329 (permalink)
(23) Final Warrior
 
gad_is_here's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: I go with the naked ladies[;)]
Posts: 2,507
Blog Entries: 7
Rep Power: 77
gad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond reputegad_is_here has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ?

lol. Agreed. No way to prove it wrong
__________________
Nobody's perfect and since I'm nobody...

Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.

Avoid fruits and nuts. You are what you eat. Jim Davis

All true wisdom is found on T-shirts.

Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

gad_is_here is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2008   #330 (permalink)
(15) Super Namekian
 
Sorata's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 502
Rep Power: 7
Sorata is a splendid one to beholdSorata is a splendid one to beholdSorata is a splendid one to beholdSorata is a splendid one to beholdSorata is a splendid one to beholdSorata is a splendid one to behold
Default Re: Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ?

I showed that Gotenks SSj<<<<<SSJ3 Goku and yet nothing.

The funniest thing is that Gotenks or Gohan being only 1,3-1,6x stronger than Goku perfectly shows why Vegeta disagreed to call them to destroy Chibi Buu and why almost all of Gohans energy in the Genki Dama wasn't enough to kill Buu.

But some of you like to illogically use "plotholes" to explain everything that doesn't budge in their theory.

Please try to put (Goku being 1,3x weaker than Gotenks) theory into all of Buu saga. It just fits perfectly.
Sorata is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks