Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ? - Page 2

**Majuub** · 05-30-2008

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Originally Posted by gad_is_here

Goku never knew how strong the fusion would be. But after training in the ROSAT, they did rise above their expectations though

He perfectly knew, unless you imply he's stupid enough to send the kids to their death without knowing the real threat.

USSJed · 05-30-2008

Here's another opinion that doesn't involve Goku's precious speech.

The fact that Goku was shit scared of Super Buu, when SSJ Gotenks was strong enough to kick the crap out of him, but fucked around endlessly and lost his chance?

Sorata · 05-30-2008

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As we've seen, while ki sensing isn't as exact as using a scouter to determine a battle power, it's far more precise than what you're suggesting.

I didn't see the precision you're talking about. Could you give some examples?

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The fact that Goku was shit scared of Super Buu, when SSJ Gotenks was strong enough to kick the crap out of him, but fucked around endlessly and lost his chance?

Goku could be scared of Buu even being no more than 1.5 x weaker. His SSJ3 was limited and Buu had infinite stamina, Ki and regeneration. Also I saw SSJ Gotenks mercilessly pumelled by Super Buu so I don't know what you're talking about when you mention that SSJ Gotenks was kicking the crap out of him.

gad_is_here · 05-30-2008

We assume that the fusion is simple multiplication, but it was never stated. Pre-ROSaT Gotenks might have had a chance, but definately not against an angry Buu. But post ROSAT Gotenks definately did

Sorata · 05-30-2008

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definately did

As we saw we didn't have any chance fighting Buu in his SSJ form.

gad_is_here · 05-30-2008

But wasn't that Pre-ROSAT Gotenks?

Sorata · 05-30-2008

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But wasn't that Pre-ROSAT Gotenks?

No Gotenks SSJ couldn't beat Buu both Pre and post RoSaT.

gkrt · 05-30-2008

Let's say SSJ3 Goku was at 1000

SSJ3 Goku: 1,000
Fat Buu: 850
Gotenks (Pre ROSAT): 200
Gotenks (Post ROSAT): 260
SSJ Gotenks (Pre ROSAT): 1,000
SSJ Gotenks (Post ROSAT): 1,300
Super Buu: 36,000
SSJ3 Gotenks: 39,000

Sorata · 05-30-2008

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SSJ3 Goku: 1,000
Fat Buu: 850
Gotenks (Pre ROSAT): 200
Gotenks (Post ROSAT): 260
SSJ Gotenks (Pre ROSAT): 1,000
SSJ Gotenks (Post ROSAT): 1,300
Super Buu: 36,000
SSJ3 Gotenks: 39,000

Care to post some proof on this? Because these numbers show that you haven't read the manga.

gkrt · 05-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Sorata

Care to post some proof on this? Because these numbers show that you haven't read the manga.

Remember I'm only showing 1,000 as an example to compare.

USSJed · 05-30-2008

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Also I saw SSJ Gotenks mercilessly pumelled by Super Buu so I don't know what you're talking about when you mention that SSJ Gotenks was kicking the crap out of him.

I just re-read the fight. SSJ Gotenks rapeafies Super Buu with the Kamakazi Ghost attack. However, Kamakazi ghost attack aside Buu wins. Still, I didn't see Goku rapeafy Kid Buu who is much weaker.

Sorata · 05-30-2008

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Remember I'm only showing 1,000 as an example to compare.

Duh, i'm not that stupid.

I'm talking about the evidence of SSJ3 Gotenks Being 39 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku. You broke some kind of record here.

gkrt · 05-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Sorata

Duh, i'm not that stupid.

I'm talking about the evidence of SSJ3 Gotenks Being 39 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku. You broke some kind of record here.

Okay I'll explain it. I put SSJ Gotenks at 1,300 and he was not as strong as Super Buu. He goes to SSJ3. These are my multiplyers.

SSJ= x5 from Base.
SSJ2= x10 from SSJ.
SSJ3= x3 from SSJ2.

So 1,300 x 10= 13,000 x 3= 39,000.

USSJed · 05-30-2008

But the SSJ "multiplier" is x50, is it not?

gkrt · 05-30-2008

Some say later in the series the multiplyer became smaller.

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USSJed (27) Lord Enma Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 5,669 Rep Power: 110	Re: Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ? Here's another opinion that doesn't involve Goku's precious speech. The fact that Goku was shit scared of Super Buu, when SSJ Gotenks was strong enough to kick the crap out of him, but fucked around endlessly and lost his chance?

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gad_is_here (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: I go with the naked ladies[;)] Posts: 2,139 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 51	Re: Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ? We assume that the fusion is simple multiplication, but it was never stated. Pre-ROSaT Gotenks might have had a chance, but definately not against an angry Buu. But post ROSAT Gotenks definately did __________________ Nobody's perfect and since I'm nobody... Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. Avoid fruits and nuts. You are what you eat. Jim Davis All true wisdom is found on T-shirts. Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

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gad_is_here (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: I go with the naked ladies[;)] Posts: 2,139 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 51	Re: Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ? But wasn't that Pre-ROSAT Gotenks? __________________ Nobody's perfect and since I'm nobody... Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. Avoid fruits and nuts. You are what you eat. Jim Davis All true wisdom is found on T-shirts. Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

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