Is it possible that Goku SSJ3 > Gotenks SSJ? - Page 12

Sorata · 06-01-2008

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has become more powerful

I don't negate that but simple "more powerful" isn't used in situations when someones strenght increases 2x or more (especially with no reaction at all when the change happened). Piccolo stated that his body is better fitted to fight and I'm assuming that also means that he gained little power (but maybe 1,3x increase overall if not less).

It's like Zero wrote:

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Personally I'd have to say the strength increase would be like what you would expect an obese man to gain after "transforming" into an athlete.

Just a little increase.

Evil Vegeta · 06-01-2008

Okay, so according to you, the upgrade from Majin Buu to Super Buu wasn't much? Well, if that's what you think, then Goku really disagrees with you, since he states he doesn't have a chance against Super Buu without the potara.

Devilz · 06-01-2008

And he also says afterwards he could have beat Fat Buu. That sounds like a big difference to me.

Pober · 06-01-2008

i want only ask you all, what is difference in powerlevel between Maijn Buu and Shin Buu?? write answer in (x) times...

Evil Vegeta · 06-01-2008

About 3-4x at the most.

Devilz · 06-01-2008

The answer is x.

Pober · 06-01-2008

And what is multiplier of Buu fusion??

Evil Vegeta · 06-01-2008

Since they split with one gettin the majority of power, I'd say the the absorption raised Buu's power about 6x when they changed into Super Buu.

Sorata · 06-01-2008

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then Goku really disagrees with you, since he states he doesn't have a chance against Super Buu without the potara.

According to common DB (and MFG) math a 1,3x superiority is enough to wipe out the floor with opponents face. Buu had regeneration, was stronger and he had unlimited Ki. Goku on the other hand has limited time in SSj3 state and huge energy consumption and would be fighting in hostile environment. His statement is normal in this circumstances.

Madness · 06-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Sorata

According to common DB (and MFG) math a 1,3x superiority is enough to wipe out the floor with opponents face. Buu had regeneration, was stronger and he had unlimited Ki. Goku on the other hand has limited time in SSj3 state and huge energy consumption and would be fighting in hostile environment. His statement is normal in this circumstances.

That math has too few evidences to be really sound.

Sorata · 06-01-2008

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That math has too few evidences to be really sound.

You can even ignore this math if you wish. With so many advantages at Buu's side i wouldn't be suprised if Goku said the same thing even if they were dead even in sheer power. Even small advantage in Buu's power could lead Goku to merciless defeat.

Goku was barely able to fight longer with Kid Buu who was weaker than him. And this fight wasn't in Buu's insides.

Evil Vegeta · 06-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Sorata

According to common DB (and MFG) math a 1,3x superiority is enough to wipe out the floor with opponents face. Buu had regeneration, was stronger and he had unlimited Ki. Goku on the other hand has limited time in SSj3 state and huge energy consumption and would be fighting in hostile environment. His statement is normal in this circumstances.

That's the minimum, but it doesn't apply to every battle. By the way, Hostile environment? Vegeta was ready to leave Buu when Goku said that, and since this is before the battle with Kid Buu, Goku didn't know the unbelievable energy consumption of SSJ3 at this point.

Goku also stated that they were "weaker" then Buu, not limited in their attacks or power-up's. If he believes he's wekler, then he's much weaker. Gotenks fought evenly with Super Buu, so the difference would have to be a lot, since Gotenks is stronger then Goku.

NarutoFan · 06-01-2008

Just to inform you, Sorata, Goku states Shin Boo is stronger than him, not that he simply doesn't stand chance like Evil_Vegeta has told you.

Edit: Nevermind.

SkullRock · 06-01-2008

It's pretty clear than SSJ3 Goku did not use full power against Fat Buu, so I can see it as SSJ3 Goku (full power) > SSJ Gotenks (pre and post ROSAT) > SSJ3 Goku (against Fat Buu) > Fat Buu (against Goku).

Remixxx · 06-01-2008

And he also didnt do any damage to fat buu....he just said that he could beat him but seing how he did against him i dont think so.

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