Evil Vegeta

Why? Goku just transformed into the SSJ3 form, and somehow held back about 40-70% of his power? He was holding back, but there is nothin that makes it as significant as you imply.

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Madness

Yes, for the simple reason that his energy never drained.

And he cannot supress his power in SSJ3. He hasn't mastered the form, so he cannot supress his power. He's running all of the power he can, all of the time.

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SSJ4 Vegito

I'm sort of confused. When Goku said he had to gather Ki for One minute did he mean he actually has access to a whole other supply of power, or that he simply was planning to exterminate Kid Buu this time?

Evil Vegeta

Many disagree, but I believe it was a reference to an attack. He said he would to revv up to have enough power; basically, enough power for an attack in my opinion. Unless many think he was going to go to full-power and punch Buu into oblivion.

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USSJed

I think he had been damaged and needed to "power up" like in a Budokai game where you can recover your Ki by pressing some buttons...

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Majuub

In fact, he can use his full power. He believed he was stronger than Fat Buu, if he was using his full power he wouldn't have thought so since Fat Buu was also playing.

Goku never held back against Chibi Buu. He said himself just before the fight ''I'll have to go all out from the beginning''. As for the fight, when he was battling Chibi Buu, he tried to find an opening to finish him off but he never found it, he said himself Chibi Buu never gave him the occasion to use a full power attack. When he said he needed to gather Ki for a minute, it was because he lost too much Ki in the heat of the battle, he said himself ''We have the same technic but his power doesn't decrease'' it means Goku's power was decreasing, that's why he needed one minute to get it back at its peak.

SSJ3 dead Goku isn't more powerful than when he is alive, he can't put more power into one blast, he's not faster, he's not stronger. He lasts longer since there is no Ki drain, there is not much of a difference. If SSJ3 Goku was dead while fighting Chibi Buu, he wouldn't have needed a minute to gather his Ki, his power wouldn't have decreased, with that, he would have more time to find a way to obliterate Buu.

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Prince Vegeta

1. He didn't realize it would make a difference until after that inccident. That's when he realized he couldn't go fp in his living body.

2. Because he hadn't powered up for a minute. It also makes more sense for him to have used less power against Fat Boo since he had no intention to kill him.

Exactly where did I say he held back as much as you presumed I said? I simply said its more likely that he used less power against Kid Boo.

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That's an assumption that's most proabably inaccurate. How do you know in his dead body he would be at fp from the start? Goku didn't know that his living body was inferior to his dead body until he tried to power up to full, therefore if he usually went straight to fpssj3 when he transformed in his dead body, he would have noticed that things were different in his living body.

Sure, he could have held back power because he wasn't trying to "kill" Fat Buu, but Vegeta also mentioned that Goku at full power would be able to obliterate Kid Buu and he saw Goku's fight with Fat Buu. In Goku's actual fight with Kid Buu he had a small advantage at best, and for Vegeta to know for sure that Goku would be able to defeat Kid Buu is if his power output was greater against Fat Buu than it was against Kid Buu.[/quote]

Well first off its not just the fact that he wasn't trying to kill fat boo but its also the fact that the more power he expelled the less time he would have on earth. Also regarding the point you rasied, Vegeta wasn't basing Goku's power off the fight against Fat Boo. This is obvious since he becomes amazed at Goku's power after Goku and Kid Boo start fighting each other. He apparently sensed that Goku still had room to build up his energy and so made that comment. If anything Vegeta was more amazed after witnessing Goku vs Kid Boo as opposed to Goku vs Fat Boo,

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Evil Vegeta

Yeah, my mistake. I'm just see a lot of people mention that he holding back about the majority of his power against Majin Buu, which is just find odd.

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Majuub

[quote=Devilz;1000097] Goku never held back against Chibi Buu. He said himself just before the fight ''I'll have to go all out from the beginning''. As for the fight, when he was battling Chibi Buu, he tried to find an opening to finish him off but he never found it, he said himself Chibi Buu never gave him the occasion to use a full power attack. When he said he needed to gather Ki for a minute, it was because he lost too much Ki in the heat of the battle, he said himself ''We have the same technic but his power doesn't decrease'' it means Goku's power was decreasing, that's why he needed one minute to get it back at its peak.

It seems you guys don't get it. Goku isn't stronger when he is dead, he lasts longer.

Also, no, Goku wasn't using near his full power against Fat Buu, if he was, he wouldn't have said he could have killed Fat Buu. Just think about it, he was using full power, Fat Buu was playing with him and laughing and yet Goku would think he could have won?? Doesn't make any sense.

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Devilz

Well he tried to go FP both times, but the second time he only powered up to all that his living body could handle. Then during the minute he wanted to power up to maximum but failed. Even if Goku didn't use FP against Fat Buu, he's certainly have tried FP at least once in the other world to test his strength, so he should have noticed a difference when fighting Kid Buu

Well he's only sensed/seen it up close for the first time.

That's exactly what I said.He blasted Chibi Buu twice but he just regenerated. He simply wasn't strong enough.And how does Goku know that Fat Buu could increase his power any further?

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Majuub

Goku blasted Chibi Buu twice but not with full power, he said himself ''That's what I've been trying to do, but he never let me the occasion'' it means Goku tried to find a way to do it, but he never did it.

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stefzed54

Quote:

''I'll have to go all out from the beginning''.

Which he tried and failed miserably.