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Old 05-23-2008   #76 (permalink)
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Default Re: Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu?

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I'm not sure if you are refering to Japanese manga, cos I think that in Viz its stated that he lost power.
However even without manga statment he surely did get weaker.
You think? I have the Viz licensed volume in my hand.

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Look: Buff Buu > Super Buu

Buff Buu = Kid Buu + South Kaioshin

Fat Buu(without power loss) = Buff Buu + Fat Kaioshin.

So Fat Buu(without power loss) >> Super Buu, and thats clear contradiction.
This makes no sense. He loses power when absorbing the East Kaioshin, but gains power when absorbing South Kaioshin? It's stated all the souls he ate tamed him, so why would he lose power only when absorbing the East Kaioshin?

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I don't know what power of Fat Buu are you referring at. The power you think Fat Buu has is an assumption since we never saw him to be stronger after he released his power against Vegeta. IMO he released his full power there and kept it later during his fight with SSJ3 Goku.
Okay, I'll take it slow:

Of course it's an assumption, however, it is holds a basis and is backed up by facts from the manga. It's stated Boo powers up when enraged, right? It is stated after splitting with Aku Boo, the evil half got much more of the power, right? It is stated Shin Boo's body is perfectly suited to battle and his soul is full of pure rage? This is why Good Boo + Aku Boo does not equal Boo, like you stated, as he also gains Boo's latent power without having to become enraged.

Now, outright stating when Boo fought Vegeta he released his full power and kept it until he was released Aku Boo is baseless speculation. He calmed down, why would he still be powered up?

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"Super Boo >>>>> Aku Boo + Good Boo" - Thats what I'm talking all the time.
What? I've never denied as being true - I stated Majin (Fat) Boo, fully powered, would equal Super Boo.
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Default Re: Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu?

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You think? I have the Viz licensed volume in my hand.

This makes no sense. He loses power when absorbing the East Kaioshin, but gains power when absorbing South Kaioshin? It's stated all the souls he ate tamed him, so why would he lose power only when absorbing the East Kaioshin?

Okay, I'll take it slow:

Of course it's an assumption, however, it is holds a basis and is backed up by facts from the manga. It's stated Boo powers up when enraged, right? It is stated after splitting with Aku Boo, the evil half got much more of the power, right? It is stated Shin Boo's body is perfectly suited to battle and his soul is full of pure rage? This is why Good Boo + Aku Boo does not equal Boo, like you stated, as he also gains Boo's latent power without having to become enraged.

Now, outright stating when Boo fought Vegeta he released his full power and kept it until he was released Aku Boo is baseless speculation. He calmed down, why would he still be powered up?

What? I've never denied as being true - I stated Majin (Fat) Boo, fully powered, would equal Super Boo.
Then why didn't you post what kaioshin said when I asked you to post it?

I've proved that he lost power. Stop ignoring it.

"so why would he lose power only when absorbing the East Kaioshin?"

Plot.

"why would he still be powered up?"

He tapped into his hidden power after releasing his anger, but that doesn't mean he needs anger to tap again into that power. Goku needed anger to go SSJ for first time, but later he could go SSJ no problem. The fact that Goku needed SSJ3 tells us that Fat Buu was powered like when he crushed Majin Vegeta.

"I stated Majin (Fat) Boo, fully powered"

Majin Buu fully powered = Wraith Buu + Good Buu

Wraith Buu - Buu who represents his hidden power he released, since the hatching.
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Default Re: Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu?

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You think? I have the Viz licensed volume in my hand.

This makes no sense. He loses power when absorbing the East Kaioshin, but gains power when absorbing South Kaioshin? It's stated all the souls he ate tamed him, so why would he lose power only when absorbing the East Kaioshin?

Okay, I'll take it slow:

Of course it's an assumption, however, it is holds a basis and is backed up by facts from the manga. It's stated Boo powers up when enraged, right? It is stated after splitting with Aku Boo, the evil half got much more of the power, right? It is stated Shin Boo's body is perfectly suited to battle and his soul is full of pure rage? This is why Good Boo + Aku Boo does not equal Boo, like you stated, as he also gains Boo's latent power without having to become enraged.

Now, outright stating when Boo fought Vegeta he released his full power and kept it until he was released Aku Boo is baseless speculation. He calmed down, why would he still be powered up?

What? I've never denied as being true - I stated Majin (Fat) Boo, fully powered, would equal Super Boo.
Maybe, but he can't acess full power.
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