Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu? - Page 4

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 05-20-2008

ITT people ignore my post.

Evil Vegeta · 05-20-2008

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Originally Posted by Kaio

Except. . . it didn't say that.

Gohan's post clearly stated that was the line in the original. Both Buu's seperated, the evil one got the majority of the power.

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According to someone (I don't remember their name), they said, according to the original lines of Piccolo or something, the skinny, gray Majin Buu was a manifestation of wrath/rage/etc. He was an incarnation of emotions. Vegeta and everyone else weren't idiots to assume Majin Buu could became consumed with emotional turmoil and spawn another Majin Buu, and I doubt it was brought up for kicks and giggles.

What's with this everyone thing? Vegeta stated this: What "if" he creates another of those monsters? That's no direct quote stating he actually will, just Vegeta being cautious. He did the same exact thing when Cell exploded; he wanted to finish #18 off while she was unconscious. So that quote means nothin. All of the evil was already expelled in Evil Buu.

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Besides him getting angry over ice cream? (Dunno if that was filler in anime) He was never exposed to the situation again anyway; and one could argue that he was already innocent, in a sense, after absorbing the grand supreme kai and that he didn't understand that murdering was wrong until he met Hercule.

Buu meeting Hercule is what disrupted his soul in a way, which got him to release all of the evil within him. He was in the process of being good, but couldn't completely do so, because he was still somewhat evil. He was pretty angry against Kid Buu, but he didn't power-up against him, so he had a chance.

SSJ4 Vegito · 05-20-2008

I personally think Fat Buu at Full Power (Against Vegeta) was the Buu who fought against SSJ3 Goku because, when you think about it Majin Buu never had to get angry again after he powered up against Dabura. Gohan went from "I'm sure I can beat this guy" to "OH FUCK I'm doomed RUUUN" Buu didn't get angry. Plus let's not forget even if Buu didn't get angry. That's not a big deal if Majin Vegeta with stand Buu's attacks (When he used that Awsome Explosive wave) then SSJ3 Goku couldn't be harmed too much by the attack. However Buu (When he's about to release Evil Buu) is different. I personally believe that Fat Buu (Full Power) is equal to Kid Buu since Kid Buu is unrestrained. Also if Goku didn't sense Evil Buu & Good Buu's battle from that world but did when Super Buu was born. SSJ3 Goku's power was sensed and since Kid Buu should be close to him, I would think he could be sensed too.
As for the battle with Fat Buu if Goku could truly only sense Fat Buu's power (What he used against Gohan & Dabura) then Goku wouldn't have gone SSJ3 after all he only was stalling for time. So he must have either sensed it or Buu was still at the level he fought Vegeta with. Also let's not forget Goku doesn't know about Buu's regeneration until his battle with him (That's probably why he was surprised) however Goku did deflect Buu's Kamehameha without any difficulty (he was surprised because, he learned it so fast). So I'd say Goku's statement about beating Fat Buu is perfectly legitimate.

Kaio · 05-20-2008

@Chibi Mystic Gohan & Evil Vegeta:

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

This is what was said: Narrator: Alas, sweetness stands little chance against concentrated wrath.

How you get "Majin Buu split himself into a good Majin Buu and an evil Majin Buu whom took most of the power" from that is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

Buu meeting Hercule is what disrupted his soul in a way, which got him to release all of the evil within him. He was in the process of being good, but couldn't completely do so, because he was still somewhat evil.

It wasn't Hercule that corrupted him; it was the ignorant gunmen. Majin Buu was no different living with Hercule in the clay house then he was when he was eating tons of people. The only reason he stopped murdering people was because Hercule asked him to and found it more fun to play with him and Bee then to eat people. Was it anime filler that he cured a boy from blindness?

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

He was pretty angry against Kid Buu, but he didn't power-up against him, so he had a chance.

Huh?

Devilz · 05-21-2008

You ignored his post again? lol

Evil Vegeta · 05-21-2008

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Originally Posted by Kaio

How you get "Majin Buu split himself into a good Majin Buu and an evil Majin Buu whom took most of the power" from that is beyond me.

I'm going to repeat myself one last time: Read Gohan's post on the first page, which uttely destroys whatever you're tryin to do. What I posted was from the english manga, Gohan's was the original.

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It wasn't Hercule that corrupted him; it was the ignorant gunmen. Majin Buu was no different living with Hercule in the clay house then he was when he was eating tons of people. The only reason he stopped murdering people was because Hercule asked him to and found it more fun to play with him and Bee then to eat people. Was it anime filler that he cured a boy from blindness?

He did cure the blindness, and proceeded to turn someone into milk just to give it to him as well. Anyway, you've obviously missed my point. Hercule and the dog was the reason why he was calmed down to a point where he could actually care not to destroy the planet anymore, therefore, they played a part in his abnormal anger release. The guys only helped the progression of the dispel even furthur with their actions against the two, and no one is disputing that. The fact of the matter is; Majin Buu still demolished the planet without Babi givin him any orders, so he was evil at that point.

He was no different, but again, Hercule suppressed his evil to a point.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 05-21-2008

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Originally Posted by Kaio

@Chibi Mystic Gohan & Evil Vegeta:How you get "Majin Buu split himself into a good Majin Buu and an evil Majin Buu whom took most of the power" from that is beyond me.

Because that wasn't what was originally said? Did you even read my post before that one?

Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu?

uki1234 · 05-21-2008

lol fanslation >>> VIz slation, when it comes to the Narrators quote.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 05-21-2008

Not really a "fanslation," just my direct translation from the Japanese text. But yes, their quote is very inaccurate.

Kaio · 05-21-2008

I wasn't ignoring his post, I was confusing which one was the original translation. . .
Anyway, if they really did divide their powers, as it states, how come super Buu had more power that Majin Buu before splitting?

Evil Vegeta · 05-21-2008

Super Buu was an entirely different form, with a body more suitable for battle (as stated by Piccolo) and capable of using his powers more freely without havin to increase it through anger like Majin Buu did.

It was basically an transformation with Super Buu just being much more powerful.

Madness · 05-21-2008

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Originally Posted by Kaio

I wasn't ignoring his post, I was confusing which one was the original translation. . .
Anyway, if they really did divide their powers, as it states, how come super Buu had more power that Majin Buu before splitting?

Because it wasn't a standard fusion. It was so much more.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 05-21-2008

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Originally Posted by Kaio

I wasn't ignoring his post, I was confusing which one was the original translation. . .
Anyway, if they really did divide their powers, as it states, how come super Buu had more power that Majin Buu before splitting?

Sorry for accusing you, then.

Anyway, I've often heard the theory that Majin Boo's full power (i.e. if he did his "steam anger power up" to the fullest) would be as strong as Super Boo's full power. Since Super Boo was basically the evil grey Boo (who represented fat Boo's angry side), Super Boo didn't have to do that steam power up to reach his full power (fat Boo was rather childish, so it makes sense that he'd have to be angry to power up).

uki1234 · 05-21-2008

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Originally Posted by Chibi Mystic Gohan

Not really a "fanslation," just my direct translation from the Japanese text. But yes, their quote is very inaccurate.

I mean the fanslation has almost identical quote as Japanese text.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 05-21-2008

Oh, you mean those crap quality fanslations that are used a lot online? Yeah, a lot of their quotes were accurate, but a lot of the lines were clearly guessed.

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Chibi Mystic Gohan (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Surrounded by dickgirls Posts: 1,631 Rep Power: 44	Re: Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu? ITT people ignore my post. __________________ "Words don't exist so that we can tell the truth; they exist so that we can conceal the truth" - ZOMBIEPOWDER.* Volume 02*

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SSJ4 Vegito (18) Artificial Human Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 933 Rep Power: 3	Re: Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu? I personally think Fat Buu at Full Power (Against Vegeta) was the Buu who fought against SSJ3 Goku because, when you think about it Majin Buu never had to get angry again after he powered up against Dabura. Gohan went from "I'm sure I can beat this guy" to "OH FUCK I'm doomed RUUUN" Buu didn't get angry. Plus let's not forget even if Buu didn't get angry. That's not a big deal if Majin Vegeta with stand Buu's attacks (When he used that Awsome Explosive wave) then SSJ3 Goku couldn't be harmed too much by the attack. However Buu (When he's about to release Evil Buu) is different. I personally believe that Fat Buu (Full Power) is equal to Kid Buu since Kid Buu is unrestrained. Also if Goku didn't sense Evil Buu & Good Buu's battle from that world but did when Super Buu was born. SSJ3 Goku's power was sensed and since Kid Buu should be close to him, I would think he could be sensed too. As for the battle with Fat Buu if Goku could truly only sense Fat Buu's power (What he used against Gohan & Dabura) then Goku wouldn't have gone SSJ3 after all he only was stalling for time. So he must have either sensed it or Buu was still at the level he fought Vegeta with. Also let's not forget Goku doesn't know about Buu's regeneration until his battle with him (That's probably why he was surprised) however Goku did deflect Buu's Kamehameha without any difficulty (he was surprised because, he learned it so fast). So I'd say Goku's statement about beating Fat Buu is perfectly legitimate.

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uki1234 (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: May 2008 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 1,009 Rep Power: 3	Re: Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu? lol fanslation >>> VIz slation, when it comes to the Narrators quote.

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Chibi Mystic Gohan (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Surrounded by dickgirls Posts: 1,631 Rep Power: 44	Re: Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu? Not really a "fanslation," just my direct translation from the Japanese text. But yes, their quote is very inaccurate. __________________ "Words don't exist so that we can tell the truth; they exist so that we can conceal the truth" - ZOMBIEPOWDER.* Volume 02*

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Kaio (12) Saiyan Prince Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 225 Rep Power: 1	Re: Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu? I wasn't ignoring his post, I was confusing which one was the original translation. . . Anyway, if they really did divide their powers, as it states, how come super Buu had more power that Majin Buu before splitting?

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Chibi Mystic Gohan (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Surrounded by dickgirls Posts: 1,631 Rep Power: 44	Re: Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu? Oh, you mean those crap quality fanslations that are used a lot online? Yeah, a lot of their quotes were accurate, but a lot of the lines were clearly guessed. __________________ "Words don't exist so that we can tell the truth; they exist so that we can conceal the truth" - ZOMBIEPOWDER.* Volume 02*