Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu? - Page 3

Evil Vegeta · 05-19-2008

Actually, Kid Buu hit Mr. Buu with another beam when he got close to him, which he regenerated from as well. Kid Buu also punched him in the stomach, but the most he could do was stretch him a bit, because his arm wouldn't go through.

Even if the regeneration wasn't used as much, it's obvious his resistance to attacks is better then Vegeta's, because of course, Buu's are made of different things, unlike Saiyans, who've don't show that kind of resistance. Overall, Mr. Buu has better defense when it comes to his being, Vegeta doesn't.

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Nobody knows if Fat Buu could have powered up against SSJ3 Goku, it's just pure speculation if you think he can. He already powered up against Vegeta and that is enough.

Since it's been shown his power grows when he's angry, that's basically a stated fact that wasn't contradicted, because he didn't get angry against Goku. So, sayin he couldn't get any stronger is pure speculation, since nothin states he was at his maximum.

uki1234 · 05-19-2008

Why would Buu be naturally more resilient than Vegeta? He's a fat guy after all.... Also why would Goku consider the possibility that Wraith Buu will be born again if Buu's chi wasn't same as before(Majin Buu's).

Whats your point? Does Gohan's power increases every time he gets angry, or only when its stated or obvious that he's increased his power cos of anger? Same goes for buu.

stefzed54 · 05-19-2008

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Originally Posted by gad_is_here

Fat Buu (Full Power) > SSJ3 Goku

What's this full power you speak of?

SmallvilleSuperman · 05-19-2008

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Originally Posted by stefzed54

What's this full power you speak of?

Maybe Fat Buu powered up?

stefzed54 · 05-19-2008

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Originally Posted by SmallvilleSuperman

Maybe Fat Buu powered up?

We already saw him power up against Vegeta mate.

SmallvilleSuperman · 05-19-2008

It was really crappy Sarcasm lmao

Evil Vegeta · 05-19-2008

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Originally Posted by uki1234

Why would Buu be naturally more resilient than Vegeta? He's a fat guy after all.... Also why would Goku consider the possibility that Wraith Buu will be born again if Buu's chi wasn't same as before(Majin Buu's).

Buu is entirely different from Vegeta, which you can tell by just lookin at him. His resistance is naturally better then Vegeta's because of many things that Vegeta just doesn't posess. He's naturally better in terms of defense. Goku was also wrong about that assumption of another Evil Buu, because Evil Buu was basically Kid Buu in a different form. Mr. Buu expelled all of his evil, therefore, there's no chance of another Buu being created.

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Whats your point? Does Gohan's power increases every time he gets angry, or only when its stated or obvious that he's increased his power cos of anger? Same goes for buu.

When Buu get's angry, he releases steam; Gohan doesn't, since he's different.

uki1234 · 05-19-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

Buu is entirely different from Vegeta, which you can tell by just lookin at him. His resistance is naturally better then Vegeta's because of many things that Vegeta just doesn't posess. He's naturally better in terms of defense. Goku was also wrong about that assumption of another Evil Buu, because Evil Buu was basically Kid Buu in a different form. Mr. Buu expelled all of his evil, therefore, there's no chance of another Buu being created.

When Buu get's angry, he releases steam; Gohan doesn't, since he's different.

"His resistance is naturally better then Vegeta's because of many things that Vegeta just doesn't posess"

The only thing I can find which Vegeta doesn't possess is a bunch of fat, which doesn't help buu much...

That bolded part is wrong and Goku agrees with me.

"When Buu get's angry, he releases steam"

So what?

Evil Vegeta · 05-19-2008

Yeah, sure he does. The same Goku didn't even have aNy knowledge of Buu splitting into two, because Vegeta had to tell him of course; now he knows that Buu can create another Buu out of nowhere? Right. Mr. Buu has no more evil in him, so he can't create another one. If so, prove it.

Also; when Buu released that steam that you disregarded, Goku, Gohan, and Krillin stated that his power increased incredibly, and Gohan even talked about it being way more then he thought. So, when he got angry, his power was stated to increase. It's stated fact, period.

uki1234 · 05-19-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

Yeah, sure he does. The same Goku didn't even have aNy knowledge of Buu splitting into two, because Vegeta had to tell him of course; now he knows that Buu can create another Buu out of nowhere? Right. Mr. Buu has no more evil in him, so he can't create another one. If so, prove it.

Also; when Buu released that steam that you disregarded, Goku, Gohan, and Krillin stated that his power increased incredibly, and Gohan even talked about it being way more then he thought. So, when he got angry, his power was stated to increase. It's stated fact, period.

Maybe you haven't noticed that the same Vegeta spoke of possibility of him splitting again, and Goku agreed that there is a possibility.

their opinion > Yours.

So what?

The first two times Gohan got enraged, his power is stated to increase. So if we go by your logic, every time Gohan gets angry his power increases. Did anyone state that his power increased when he released steams when Wraith Buu is released.

Evil Vegeta · 05-19-2008

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Originally Posted by uki1234

Maybe you haven't noticed that the same Vegeta spoke of possibility of him splitting again, and Goku agreed that there is a possibility.

their opinion > Yours.

This is the last time I'm going to repeat myself, if you don't understand, that's yoir problem: Majin Buu released ALL of his evil, which was so great that it created another form. Mr. Buu is pure, and has no evil within him, therefore, he cannot, and I repeat, cannot release another Evil Buu. What part of that don't you understand?

You also make yourself look funny with that opinion thing, since you believe your theory or word is more reliable then an official guide to the series. Go figure. If you believe everything they say, then you believe Goku was going to defeat Super Buu, and that Vegeta, Gohan, and Krillin would be enough to handle Freeza just because Vegeta says so.

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So what?

The first two times Gohan got enraged, his power is stated to increase. So if we go by your logic, every time Gohan gets angry his power increases. Did anyone state that his power increased when he released steams when Wraith Buu is released.

Gohan got angry against Nappa, kicked him away, his power increased; Gohan got angry and released a Masenko, but his power increased; Gohan got angry and kicked Dodoria away, which no 1,500 level can do since Dodoria saw it somewhat, so his power increased; Gohan got angry when Freeza thrashed Krillin and thrashed him, his power increased; Gohan got angry when Freeza was thrashing Piccolo, and his power increased.

Most of those times, there was no outright quote that his power increased, but logic says it did. Also; Piccolo was very afraid when Majin Buu was releasing all of that energy, and just stated that "it was odd", because he didn't understand it at all. So, you see, you still can't disprove of a stated fact; the end.

Kaio · 05-19-2008

The skinny, gray Majin Buu is not evil incarnate, it's all of Majin Buu's rage manifested, so I think I could see Vegeta's worries as valid. But yea, so far no one's been able to prove that Majin Buu became weaker after materializing his dark persona; I've only seen evidence to support otherwise.

Evil Vegeta · 05-19-2008

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Originally Posted by Kaio

The skinny, gray Majin Buu is not evil incarnate, it's all of Majin Buu's rage manifested, so I think I could see Vegeta's worries as valid. But yea, so far no one's been able to prove that Majin Buu became weaker after materializing his dark persona; I've only seen evidence to support otherwise.

Did you read Gohan's post? The two split in power, with the majority going to Evil Buu. That's proof enough. The Buu of pure wrath is the same as Buu of pure evil; he was an evil incarnate, since he was all of the evil present in Majin Buu.

Buu doesn't even show he has an ounce of evil left after that, and if there is, please tell me where? No one seems to be able to do that.

Kaio · 05-20-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

Did you read Gohan's post? The two split in power, with the majority going to Evil Buu. That's proof enough.

Except. . . it didn't say that.

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

The Buu of pure wrath is the same as Buu of pure evil; he was an evil incarnate, since he was all of the evil present in Majin Buu.

According to someone (I don't remember their name), they said, according to the original lines of Piccolo or something, the skinny, gray Majin Buu was a manifestation of wrath/rage/etc. He was an incarnation of emotions. Vegeta and everyone else weren't idiots to assume Majin Buu could became consumed with emotional turmoil and spawn another Majin Buu, and I doubt it was brought up for kicks and giggles.

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

Buu doesn't even show he has an ounce of evil left after that, and if there is, please tell me where? No one seems to be able to do that.

Besides him getting angry over ice cream? (Dunno if that was filler in anime) He was never exposed to the situation again anyway; and one could argue that he was already innocent, in a sense, after absorbing the grand supreme kai and that he didn't understand that murdering was wrong until he met Hercule.

NarutoFan · 05-20-2008

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Originally Posted by Chibi Mystic Gohan

It's said in narration in the manga, and was most likely said in the anime as well.

"The original Majin Boo hadn't a chance at winning... After all, when they were split in two, the evil side received the majority of their power..."

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Originally Posted by Kaio

Except. . . it didn't say that.

I'd have to disagree with that.

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Kaio (12) Saiyan Prince Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 221 Rep Power: 1	Re: Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu? The skinny, gray Majin Buu is not evil incarnate, it's all of Majin Buu's rage manifested, so I think I could see Vegeta's worries as valid. But yea, so far no one's been able to prove that Majin Buu became weaker after materializing his dark persona; I've only seen evidence to support otherwise.