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Old 05-19-2008   #16 (permalink)
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Default Re: Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu?

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What are you talkin about? I don't even write fanfics. The battle was equal. No one had any upperhand in the battle, since neither's attacks were damaging.
Fat Buu couldnt keep up with SSJ3 Goku, then he got angry twice and managed to land a few blows on SSJ3 Goku, which did absolutely no damage at all, except make Goku smile....

Goku had the majority of the fight under his control, he was fighting Fat Buu in a way that he wanted to eliminate him, he was just sparring with Fat Buu. If he even said later he could have killed Fat Buu if he wanted, but decided to give the boys a chance.
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Default Re: Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu?

You need to look at the battle again. Buu didn't get angry at all during the battle, and he was just as happy as Goku. None of Goku's attacks did any damage either. He fired a Kame beam directly at him that did nothin against Majin Buu.

Even if Goku was holding back as much as you think, Buu was doing the exact same, since he didn't increase his power through anger like he could.
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You need to look at the battle again. Buu didn't get angry at all during the battle, and he was just as happy as Goku. None of Goku's attacks did any damage either. He fired a Kame beam directly at him that did nothin against Majin Buu.

Even if Goku was holding back as much as you think, Buu was doing the exact same, since he didn't increase his power through anger like he could.
Okay so is it filler when Fat Buu gets angry?

It doesnt really matter because Fat Buu was still at his strongest when fighting SSJ3 Goku, if he was not he'd be in his supressed state that got pwned by SSJ2 Majin Vegeta.

Goku's attacks didnt do much damage to Fat Buu yes, but then again when do physical attacks do anything to any forms of Buu?

Goku's KameHameHa went straight through Buu if I remember correctly.
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Okay so is it filler when Fat Buu gets angry?
I guess so.

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It doesnt really matter because Fat Buu was still at his strongest when fighting SSJ3 Goku, if he was not he'd be in his supressed state that got pwned by SSJ2 Majin Vegeta.
How so? There's nothin that points to Buu being suppressed when he's not angry. When he raises his power, it just stays on that level. He didn't even get angry against Goku because he was enjoying the battle. He could've powered-up.

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Gohan used nothin but basic attacks against Super Buu, didnt he?

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It did. Buu just regenerated with very little effort. Goku couldn't even believe it.
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Default Re: Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu?

Piccolo said it in a dub (Anime). I can't fidn it though.
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Default Re: Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu?

He was already powered up against SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, I doubt he could have powered up again against SSJ3 Goku.

Gohan pwned Super Buu, but was nowhere near killing Super Buu completely.

Just accept SSJ3 Goku is stronger than Fat Buu
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Default Re: Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu?

Gohan could have killed Super Buu easily if he wanted to, nice comparison you got there.
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He was already powered up against SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, I doubt he could have powered up again against SSJ3 Goku.
Why do you doubt it? When he was unleashing his anger before he split into two, Piccolo seemed to acknowledge it. He didn't know he was going to release evil from himself. So, no, he could've got angry, but he didn't, since he had no reason to.

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You specifically asked when Buu was ever damaged by non power attacks, and I answered it. Buu was damaged enough to the point that he would rather hide and plan for an hour. I'd say Gohan attacks is the best example of someone being able to the damage Buu if they were that much stronger.

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What exactly is wrong? Mr. Buu got two lame attacks on Kid Buu and got kicked around for the rest of the battle. had it not been for his regeneration, he would've been down in seconds.
Hmm really it doesn't take a genius to realise that Fat Buu offered much more resistance than Vegeta, and thats without regeneration. Vegeta would have died from all those punches for sure.
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Default Re: Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu?

The thing is, you can't prove his regeneration wasn't a reason for his resistance, while I can, since it's totally obvious when reading the battle. Look at it again, and tell me how his regeneration wasn't the main reason he survived?

It doesn't take a genius to see an obvious thing like that.
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Mr.buu>>>ssj2 Vegeta
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Default Re: Why is it said that Majin Buu is weaker after creating grey Majin Buu?

Nobody knows if Fat Buu could have powered up against SSJ3 Goku, it's just pure speculation if you think he can. He already powered up against Vegeta and that is enough.
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The thing is, you can't prove his regeneration wasn't a reason for his resistance, while I can, since it's totally obvious when reading the battle. Look at it again, and tell me how his regeneration wasn't the main reason he survived?

It doesn't take a genius to see an obvious thing like that.
l2l <=> learn to look.

The only time he regenerated was at the beginning when kid buu blew his head off. His body was trashed all the time, and every time you look at next pic it gets even more trashed than before. If he regenerated his body would be as good as new.
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Fat Buu (Full Power) > SSJ3 Goku
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Nobody knows if Fat Buu could have powered up against SSJ3 Goku, it's just pure speculation if you think he can. He already powered up against Vegeta and that is enough.
I agree. Fat Buu achieved his max after anger power up against Majin Vegeta(which is basically Wraith Buu). There is no indication in otherwise.
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