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Old 05-15-2008   #46 (permalink)
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So wait...your saying both Yakon and Goku were suppresed to 120...? What would be the point?
I addressed this in the original post. Why would anyone ever hold back? No idea. But they do.

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Are you saying someone using lower multipliers makes the list too complicated to read, or are you saying people use lower multipliers because it's easier?

I hope you don't mean the second, because that's not true. Making SSJ = 50x for everyone would be much easier for someone creating a power level list.
I was being overly cynical. And I wasn't talking from a mathematical point of view, I was talking from a numerical point of view. The numbers at around the Buu Arc would be huge.
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@Madness:Nice location you've got there.
btw, to not be completely off topic, I think the multipliers should decrease too, though it's only cause AT never thought it out before
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I think it has to decrease as well. The USSJ, SSJ2, and SSJ3 multipliers would damn near be in the hundreds if the 50x multiplier didn't decrease from SSJ.

Gohan, can I ask a favor? If you remember, could you tell me what Krillin says about Piccolo's power comparison to a SSJ when he's battling Gero? I always wanted to know what was said in the original.
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@Madness:Nice location you've got there.
btw, to not be completely off topic, I think the multipliers should decrease too, though it's only cause AT never thought it out before
What are your reasons for it decreasing? AT never thought about it at all, so that's not really a good excuse.
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AT never thought out things after the Frieza saga. Anyway, if the SSJ multiplier was 50, than SSJ3 Goku would have to be around 3,000 times stronger than Base Goku. This would be impossible if you consider the fight against Uub
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AT never thought out things after the Frieza saga. Anyway, if the SSJ multiplier was 50, than SSJ3 Goku would have to be around 3,000 times stronger than Base Goku. This would be impossible if you consider the fight against Uub
And why would it be impossible exactly?
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Gohan, can I ask a favor? If you remember, could you tell me what Krillin says about Piccolo's power comparison to a SSJ when he's battling Gero? I always wanted to know what was said in the original.


"H-he's strong...! What kind of training did Piccolo do...? H-he's not even a Super Saiyan..."

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Thanks! I really appreciate that.

I have to wait, though, because I repped you recently.
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And why would it be impossible exactly?
So you're telling me that the incarnation of someone who was equal to SSJ3 Goku was 3000 times weaker than his last self?????. I know he was weaker than kiddy, but not by that much of a difference
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Indeed you have. Noooooooo biggie.
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So you're telling me that the incarnation of someone who was equal to SSJ3 Goku was 3000 times weaker than his last self?????. I know he was weaker than kiddy, but not by that much of a difference
And who says Uub was using his full power?
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And who said his full power was even close to Kid Boo's?
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And who says Uub was using his full power?
He was willing to do anything to beat the crap out of Goku
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He was willing to do anything to beat the crap out of Goku
Still doesn't mean he had the full powers of Kid Buu.
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