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Old 05-21-2008   #166 (permalink)
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Or, instead of this magical healing, it goes from 100,000 to 150,100,000 with a +150,000,000 bonus? That makes infinitely more sense to me.
It has been proven wrong.
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There's no evidence for healing, and I don't think Toriyama-sensei meant for one.
No one directly said it but its obvious to everyone. The strain in the SSJ form was incredibly large(LEAVE BEFORE I EXPLODE IN RAGE!!!- Goku said something like that to Gohan), since it was his first transformation, and we know that he could barely stand and move and even though you try to denie it, it is perfectly logical to everyone that he can't be battle-ready in matter of seconds if he hasn't been "healed" by the transformation itself, and with the enormous strain in the form.
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No one directly said it but its obvious to everyone. The strain in the SSJ form was incredibly large(LEAVE BEFORE I EXPLODE IN RAGE!!!- Goku said something like that to Gohan), since it was his first transformation, and we know that he could barely stand and move and even though you try to denie it, it is perfectly logical to everyone that he can't be battle-ready in matter of seconds if he hasn't been "healed" by the transformation itself, and with the enormous strain in the form.
And it's obvious to everyone that:
  • he wasn't that badly injured; he stood on his own before the transformation.
  • the "strain" was rage.
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No one directly said it but its obvious to everyone. The strain in the SSJ form was incredibly large(LEAVE BEFORE I EXPLODE IN RAGE!!!- Goku said something like that to Gohan), since it was his first transformation, and we know that he could barely stand and move and even though you try to denie it, it is perfectly logical to everyone that he can't be battle-ready in matter of seconds if he hasn't been "healed" by the transformation itself, and with the enormous strain in the form.
Your only evidence that he could "barely" stand is one panel where he had just gt out of the water. He stands just fine after that.
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Unfortunately for some people 2+2 is still 5 :(.
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Unfortunately for some people 2+2 is still 5 :(.
Yep. You've proved that.
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That comment sums up all that is wrong with Dragon Ball fans today.
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That comment sums up all that is wrong with Dragon Ball fans today.
Which one? The fact that all Dragon Ball fans assume what are generally presumptions as fact? Or the one that they're so close-minded to any other form of thinking?
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That comment sums up all that is wrong with Dragon Ball fans today.


Its wrong because SSJ Trunks was training with Base Gohan with no hand. Base gohan would have to be a lot over 150,000,000, and we know that thats not possible, since he would far surpass level of Goku he was dreaming of surpassing. Thats clear contradiction.

Not to mention it would be impossible for him to get 1000 times stronger since Frieza saga while training on Earth and with no partner to train with.
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They were only training. Argument over.

Also, Toriyama wasn't doing power level at that point in the series. Why would he look out for mistakes like that? King Piccolo said he was either ten times or a hundred times stronger than his old self when he wished to be young again. That doesn't make sense if you think about later parts in the series.
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You just gotta love all the "Uki vs the entire forum" battles. It's a bigger epic than the Frieza vs Goku fight
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One thing's for sure, uki sure is just as stubborn as Freeza...
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They were only training. Argument over.

Also, Toriyama wasn't doing power level at that point in the series. Why would he look out for mistakes like that? King Piccolo said he was either ten times or a hundred times stronger than his old self when he wished to be young again. That doesn't make sense if you think about later parts in the series.
Yes they where only training....chibi whats your answer then to this question???
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Yes they where only training....chibi whats your answer then to this question???
Which question is that?
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