Why the 50 times SSJ multiplier is not impossible - Page 10

Madness · 05-19-2008

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Originally Posted by Devilz

Funny because you think Babadi would help Yakon if Yakon hadn't even shown a 10th of his power yet.

Everything points to Yakon being at full power, you're only denying it to keep the multiplier at 50x.

Babidi helped Yakon before it was even clear Yakon needed help. Babidi was just bitter, that's all.

Remixxx · 05-19-2008

Well i support the theory that it cant be 50x

Dupe of USSJed · 05-20-2008

I think it's like when Piccolo blew up the CoSaT door, when Gotenks looked like he was going to lose. He went "Shit, I better do something or everyone is fucked" and blew the door up. Babidi saw Yakon NOT feasting on Goku, and thought "Shit, I better do something, or my plan to revive Majin Buu is fucked" and teleported them to the dark planet.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 05-20-2008

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Originally Posted by uki1234

When you are 13.3333... times stronger than your opponent, you will just go and one-shot him.

Just like 50% Freeza did to base Goku, right?

And we don't even know the Kiri reading for base Goku; he could be at 1 for all we know.

uki1234 · 05-20-2008

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Originally Posted by Chibi Mystic Gohan

Just like 50% Freeza did to base Goku, right?

And we don't even know the Kiri reading for base Goku; he could be at 1 for all we know.

I told you before not to compare Goku vs Main Enemy fight with other fights already. So why the fuck are you comparing it again????????? If we go by that ridiculous logic than everyone has to be more than 20 times stronger than you opponent to dominate with is nonsense.

As I said you can still keep deceiving yourself. I gave you more than enough reason why he's stronger than Yakkon, but you just keep acting like a dunce.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 05-20-2008

Why Goku vs. the main enemy? MAYBE GOKU CAN BEAT ANY ENEMY THAT IS 20 TIMES STRONGER THAN HIMSELF BECAUSE THE PLOT CALLS FOR IT!

Dupe of USSJed · 05-20-2008

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I told you before not to compare Goku vs Main Enemy fight with other fights already. So why the fuck are you comparing it again?????????

Because it's evidence that invalidates the "1.2x strength=mAjr pWngE!:!" theory. If your theory requires that anything be ignored without good reason, then your theory is wrong.

NarutoFan · 05-20-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

Because it's evidence that invalidates the "1.2x strength=mAjr pWngE!:!" theory. If your theory requires that anything be ignored without good reason, then your theory is wrong.

I really don't see how it invalidates such a evident theory as Freeza was beating the holy crap out of Goku, however, do you believe simple punches would kill him?

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 05-20-2008

It wouldn't be the first time someone was destroyed by physical attacks.

gad_is_here · 05-20-2008

Base Gotenks is proof that the SSJ multiplier wasn't 50 in the later stages
Besides, who said that the multiplier was 50 in the first place?????
PS:-I agree that the multiplier is 50 though anyway, since it suits the powers best

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 05-20-2008

Goku's base power level (according to the Daizenshuu #7 guide book) was 3,000,000 when he fought Freeza. His Super Saiyan level was listed as 150,000,000.

150,000,000/3,000,000=50

People therefore assume that there is a "Super Saiyan multiplier"; you multiply their base power level by 50 to get their Super Saiyan level (even though it could have simply been that transforming into a Super Saiyan added 147,000,000 power level "points" to his power level).

gad_is_here · 05-20-2008

I know. But it isn't mentioned in the manga

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 05-20-2008

Well, you asked where it was said. The Daizenshuu was the only place where power levels were given for that battle.

uki1234 · 05-20-2008

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Originally Posted by Chibi Mystic Gohan

Why Goku vs. the main enemy? MAYBE GOKU CAN BEAT ANY ENEMY THAT IS 20 TIMES STRONGER THAN HIMSELF BECAUSE THE PLOT CALLS FOR IT!

Nope. Thats insane to even think about.

uki1234 · 05-20-2008

BTW. +147,000,000 is easily wrong when you look that Base Gohan trained with SSJ Mirai Trunks.

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Chibi Mystic Gohan (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Surrounded by dickgirls Posts: 5,448 Rep Power: 145	Re: Why the 50 times SSJ multiplier is not impossible It wouldn't be the first time someone was destroyed by physical attacks. __________________ "Words don't exist so that we can tell the truth; they exist so that we can conceal the truth" - ZOMBIEPOWDER.* Volume 02*

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gad_is_here (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: I go with the naked ladies[;)] Posts: 2,507 Blog Entries: 7 Rep Power: 77	Re: Why the 50 times SSJ multiplier is not impossible Base Gotenks is proof that the SSJ multiplier wasn't 50 in the later stages Besides, who said that the multiplier was 50 in the first place????? PS:-I agree that the multiplier is 50 though anyway, since it suits the powers best __________________ Nobody's perfect and since I'm nobody... Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. Avoid fruits and nuts. You are what you eat. Jim Davis All true wisdom is found on T-shirts. Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

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Chibi Mystic Gohan (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Surrounded by dickgirls Posts: 5,448 Rep Power: 145	Re: Why the 50 times SSJ multiplier is not impossible Goku's base power level (according to the Daizenshuu #7 guide book) was 3,000,000 when he fought Freeza. His Super Saiyan level was listed as 150,000,000. 150,000,000/3,000,000=50 People therefore assume that there is a "Super Saiyan multiplier"; you multiply their base power level by 50 to get their Super Saiyan level (even though it could have simply been that transforming into a Super Saiyan added 147,000,000 power level "points" to his power level). __________________ "Words don't exist so that we can tell the truth; they exist so that we can conceal the truth" - ZOMBIEPOWDER.* Volume 02*

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gad_is_here (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: I go with the naked ladies[;)] Posts: 2,507 Blog Entries: 7 Rep Power: 77	Re: Why the 50 times SSJ multiplier is not impossible I know. But it isn't mentioned in the manga __________________ Nobody's perfect and since I'm nobody... Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. Avoid fruits and nuts. You are what you eat. Jim Davis All true wisdom is found on T-shirts. Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

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uki1234 (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 1,204 Rep Power: 11	Re: Why the 50 times SSJ multiplier is not impossible BTW. +147,000,000 is easily wrong when you look that Base Gohan trained with SSJ Mirai Trunks.