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Old 05-13-2008   #76 (permalink)
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You've failed to convince me, sorry.
I don't have to. Ignoring anything in manga, which affects power levels, makes your power levels wrong.
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Piccolo never thought that Base Gotenks could beat Super Buu.
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Piccolo never thought that Base Gotenks could beat Super Buu.
Watch the part where Trunks and Goten fused in rosat, and he said that they might have a chance against Buu.
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No he was worried when they fused In ROSAT as base saiyans, he was worried that they didnt fuse as SSJ's.
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And after he sees their power, he states Gotenks powered up hugely and might have a chance.
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And after he sees their power, he states Gotenks powered up hugely and might have a chance.
And the brainy Piccolo turned out to be wrong.
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He was wrong, but Gotenks was far above any SSJ2 at that point.
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He was wrong, but Gotenks was far above any SSJ2 at that point.
He would have to be. If Super Saiyan Gotenks is "far above" Super Saiyan 3 Goku, base Gotenks would be above Super Saiyan 2 Goku. And Goku is the strongest Super Saiyan 2, so there you are.
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I know this may sound crazy, but I believe base Gotenks is more powerful then the SSJ3 Goku that fought Majin Buu. For Piccolo to react the way he did when they weren't starting out in SSJ form, tell's me Gotenks new power was probably equal to their SSJ power before the training, which Goku stated was going to be stronger then himself.
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I know this may sound crazy, but I believe base Gotenks is more powerful then the SSJ3 Goku that fought Majin Buu. For Piccolo to react the way he did when they weren't starting out in SSJ form, tell's me Gotenks new power was probably equal to their SSJ power before the training, which Goku stated was going to be stronger then himself.
You think they got 10x stronger? WTFPWNAGE, WTF IS GOING ON?
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That's only because he doesn't know they can power up to SSJ while fused, so he was concerned.
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He was concerned about their power in base, but was astonished once they formed. That tell's me Gotenks had to have at least make a good enough gain to rival his SSJ power, or be close enough to it.
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Or he was just astonished that they got so much stronger in rosat in the period of a week. I'd be impressed too, even if they got 20% stronger.

Putting them around their SSJ pre-rosat self means they got a 2x increase at least, which I can't (and will never) accept.
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Or he was just astonished that they got so much stronger in rosat in the period of a week. I'd be impressed too, even if they got 20% stronger.

Putting them around their SSJ pre-rosat self means they got a 2x increase at least, which I can't (and will never) accept.
Yep, good post.
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Or he was just astonished that they got so much stronger in rosat in the period of a week. I'd be impressed too, even if they got 20% stronger.

Putting them around their SSJ pre-rosat self means they got a 2x increase at least, which I can't (and will never) accept.
Why not? Increasing their power really at all in just a week is already pretty absurd. Not that simply joining bodies making these two so powerful in the first place isn't.

If you're going to swallow all that, you may as well go all the way.
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