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Old 05-09-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Default Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light...

The Speed of Light: 186,000 miles per second.

Earth's size: 8,000 miles.

Someone going the speed of light would travel the Earth 23 times in 23 seconds.

Gotenks said he travelled "a couple dozen times" and we see the paths he makes all around the Earth in one panel.

One panel. To travel around the Earth "a couple dozen times" would mean at least 24x. Assuming he made one revolution per second, that would mean he travelled 192,000 miles per second. He even told Piccolo that he was so bored waiting for him that he "took a nap". We know it doesn't exactly take Piccolo several minutes to fly down from Dende's look-out. Boo climbed it rather swiftly (although he obviously wasn't using his full-speed)

Toriyama said they were even faster than the speed of light towards the end of the series. Whether or not that interview is authentic doesn't really matter: The math speaks for itself. You can check Volume 24, because those are exact quotes of Gotenks.

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Default Re: Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light...

Cool.

Do you think they can fight at the speed of light?
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*Cries*

Everytime someone makes a topic about the speed of light and DBZ, God kills a Namek. Shame on you ANB.

I am SO not getting involved in this one. Topics like this are Final Ultima-fodder. He'll show up soon I'm sure.
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Default Re: Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light...

Interesting, I thought it was a joke in the interveiw (Since Akira laughed after he said they'd gone up to the speed of light), I guess he was serious.
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Default Re: Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light...

I still think that Namek Goku could go the speed of light. So this isn't anything new to me.
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Default Re: Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light...

Yamcha stated in DB that Goku could move at the speed of light.

Probs just a dub line.
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Ohhh yes it was lol.

Anyway, I've always made my views known. As far as I see it, they never reach that speed. Ever.
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Ohhh yes it was lol.

Anyway, I've always made my views known. As far as I see it, they never reach that speed. Ever.
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Toriyama said they were even faster than the speed of light towards the end of the series. Whether or not that interview is authentic doesn't really matter: The math speaks for itself. You can check Volume 24, because those are exact quotes of Gotenks.
Here's Chibi again, playing Devil's advocate. Those "Super Otaku Magazine" interviews have been proven to be fake. First of all, "Super Otaku Magazine" is a ridiculous name for a Japanese magazine, and it simply doesn't exist. If Daizenshuu EX's forum was up, I could show you a couple of the topics that have been done on it.

Now that we've got that out of the way, let's examine Gotenks's line in the original Japanese.



"chikyuu o nan shuu mawatta ue ni chotto hirune made shichatta yo"

Literally: "I circled the Earth an unknown number of times (as in, "so much that I lost count), and then took a short nap." You can't get the number of times he circled the planet from that. "A couple dozen times" was simply an adapted line.

While I'm at it, light can circle the Earth eight times in a second, not one time in a second, according to your calculations.

I know, I'm a douche bag.
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Default Re: Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light...

According to Albert Einstein, he should technically be able to move forward in time.
Hmm Maybe its just a flaw.
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Default Re: Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light...

This was completely different then what I thought, what I don't understand is All those Energy balls are light... Also someone said that Raditz is faster then the speed of light rofl. Raditz is no way faster then Gotenks.

So is Gotenks really faster then speed of light?
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So is Gotenks really faster then speed of light?
No. Read my above post.
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This was completely different then what I thought, what I don't understand is All those Energy balls are light... Also someone said that Raditz is faster then the speed of light rofl. Raditz is no way faster then Gotenks.

So is Gotenks really faster then speed of light?
Radditz moving faster than light is a dub line.

As I understand it, if you move faster than light, times slows down for you. That could be construed as time travelling I guess.

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time travelling? XD
It's a sound theory.
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Default Re: Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light...

If a person can't see you moving, it's usually because you're faster than the speed of light, not giving light enough time to reflect off you. But I don't think all this matters in DBZ
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