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Old 06-07-2008   #496 (permalink)
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Check your facts. The speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. According to your (flawed) calculations, he was flying at about 207,123 miles per hour.

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You failed to address my previous post.



He's clearly skipping large sections of the Serpent Road when he jumps (when he's not flying, of course), so he most certainly didn't fly/hop 1,000,000 kilometers in 3 hours. There is no way you can make an accurate speed for the return trip.
I did adress that:

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Look at the road: It isn't that winded; just curving inward about 50 ft or so. And Goku is still generally following it's course even when hopping. There is no reason to believe he wouldn't cover the entire road at his top speed in 3 hours. Consider the fact he was hopping and jogging most of the time. That only goes to show he'd be even faster with all-out bukujutsu. And I'd like to remind you he didn't want to fly too much because he was saving his chi. That's why he was so tired.


So...damn, Goku's 0% of the speed of light. But it's awfully bold of you to say "there's no way you can calculate it" and he'd be even faster with all-out bukujutsu.

Still, this victory defeat is only a stepping stone to FURTHER calculations. As long as you hard-heads have opened your eyes to the fact math speaks for itself, I'm not giving up anything. If you want me to lay it out for you, this entire thread and the various battles were...




















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Still, this victory defeat is only a stepping stone to FURTHER calculations. As long as you hard-heads have opened your eyes to the fact math speaks for itself, I'm not giving up anything. If you want me to lay it out for you, this entire thread and the various battles were...

As if you needed any more reason to pump your ego *rolls eyes*

We know that the math speaks for itself. What the math doesn't explain is the speed to strength ratio, and you have yet to fully explain it in any case.
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As if you needed any more reason to pump your ego *rolls eyes*

We know that the math speaks for itself. What the math doesn't explain is the speed to strength ratio, and you have yet to fully explain it in any case.
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No, srsly, I need to think about this, sheesh!

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I did adress that:

Look at the road: It isn't that winded; just curving inward about 50 ft or so. And Goku is still generally following it's course even when hopping. There is no reason to believe he wouldn't cover the entire road at his top speed in 3 hours. Consider the fact he was hopping and jogging most of the time. That only goes to show he'd be even faster with all-out bukujutsu. And I'd like to remind you he didn't want to fly too much because he was saving his chi. That's why he was so tired.
Yes, you did say that, but it's... wrong.

1) It is really winded. I've circled how much of the road he skips when he jumps. What more do you need? All he is doing is touching a tiny part of the road and hopping to the next. That's skipping quite a lot of the road.

2) As I've posted above, he was not, as you said, "hopping and jogging most of the time." He was actually flying most of the time (he never jogged, but he did hop).

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See? He's either flying most of the time or occasionally leaping parts of the road.
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No, he's clearly leaping most of the time:

Hop: x6 panels
Fly: x2 panels

The "flying" is only a short burst of bukujutsu. And even within the same panel he hops several times. Also, you aren't very perceptive if you think it's that windy. See, the intestines when stretched out can be 30 ft long but that's only because they are VERY close and windy. Snake way only bends in a few feet and keeps going. If it were stretched out it wouldn't even be 1.5x longer than what the Oni estimated. And again, if Goku used his full-speed the entire time he'd certainly break a million kilometers in 3 hours. In case you didn't notice, flying the entire time would have made him absolutely exhausted. That's WHY he hopped most of the time; choosing to fly in short bursts.
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What are you counting? I see him flying most the time.
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What are you counting? I see him flying most the time.
When he has flames around his body, that indicates bukujutsu [flight]. I shouldn't hae had to tell you that. There are only two panels where he does that, Idk what manga you guys are looking at.
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So if he doesn't have an aura he's not flying? Because I see in one of the panels that has no aura, he's clearly flying.
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So if he doesn't have an aura he's not flying? Because I see in one of the panels that has no aura, he's clearly flying.
Okay, so the ratio is 6:3. He's flying less than half the time. And we know why he'd be hopping most of the time in the first place (tiring, loss of chi).
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Does it matter? Either way, he's skipping most of the road.
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You were right, he was hopping most of the time now that I counted again.
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