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Old 06-06-2008   #466 (permalink)
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Default Re: Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light...

It needs to be posted again, and again, until Ultima reads it and accepts that Frieza is not powered up.
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He'll still ignore it no matter what. It'll just be a waste of time at this point.
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I'm faster than Gotenks SSJ3

With all tht flying, he still didn't manage to cross the limits of my tv
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Buuhan being one of the strongest characters in the series needed several seconds to catch up with Goku (when he teleported to Vegeta). Only that should disprove that they were able to achieve lightspeed.
1-Obvious plot-device.

2-Boo was playing around. He freaking counted to five and cracked his knuckles when he could have killed Goku.
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1-Obvious plot-device.
Like characters have never taken their time to fly somewhere before? It usually takes them minutes to fly from one place to another, full power or not.
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Like characters have never taken their time to fly somewhere before? It usually takes them minutes to fly from one place to another, full power or not.
OBVIOUS PLOT-DEVICE.

Goku needed to fuse with someone and all he had was Hercule and Dende. Vegeta miraculously comes back to life. Then, just to treat the fans, Goku and his rival have an emotional arguement about how he "lied" and the importance of setting aside their differences. And then...the ultimate fan-service: they fuse into one person. If Toriyama let Boo just zip right over there they'd be dead because Boo knew how powerful the fusion would be from his own experience (Gotenks). That's why he took the precaution and knocked out Tenshinhan.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter because Gotenks circles the Earth a couple dozen times (or, according to you, an "unkown number of times") and it was obviously within the range of a few seconds. If you can judge the panels according to time, why can't I...?

Speed=Distance/Time

Snake Way: 1,000,000 km's
Time: 3 hours (On his way back)

1,000,000/3=333,333 kmph <--Goku's speed with a power-level over 8,000.
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Now correct me if I am wrong, but didnt that assitance demon guy say something to the effect of "It is rumoured to be a million km long" rather than "it's exactly 1 million km long"

Also, Goku ran "one million kilometers" in a few months(cant remember exact) at PL 416, how many thousands of years would it take for a PL:5 human to run that?
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Now correct me if I am wrong, but didnt that assitance demon guy say something to the effect of "It is rumoured to be a million km long" rather than "it's exactly 1 million km long"

Also, Goku ran "one million kilometers" in a few months(cant remember exact) at PL 416, how many thousands of years would it take for a PL:5 human to run that?
It being 1 million kilometers was written for a reason you know.

Goku at 416...it was calculated before to be like 5.5 km/per second (according to Dark Prince). A human with 5...I don't know. The fasted human runs like 9 mph. Convert that to kilometers and divide 1 million by however much 9 mph is in km.
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Goku never ran Snake Way in 3 hours. He skipped large parts of it.
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He flew the first part but got tired and ran the rest.
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^Nice red box.

And whatever you're trying to post doesn't really matter. He only did a few quick bursts of bukujutsu. He was trying to save his chi, remember...? How do you think he got tired enough to need a senzu? Tenshinhan stated bukujutsu apparently doesn't take a lot out of you when he was surprised to find Goku huffing and puffing: "Why is Son Goku tired? All we did was fly here,".
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^Nice red box.

And whatever you're trying to post doesn't really matter. He only did a few quick bursts of bukujutsu. He was trying to save his chi, remember...? How do you think he got tired enough to need a senzu? Tenshinhan stated bukujutsu apparently doesn't take a lot out of you when he was surprised to find Goku huffing and puffing: "Why is Son Goku tired? All we did was fly here,".
He was really pushing it to get, and he was using his full power and speed to get there. He needed a senzu to refresh his power.

But he was skipping large parts of Snake Way.

Shame about the red box though.

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He was really pushing it to get, and he was using his full power and speed to get there. He needed a senzu to refresh his power.

But he was skipping large parts of Snake Way.

Shame about the red box though.

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And Goku still ran much of the way. He was trying to be more fuel-efficient. It was indeed 1,000,000 km in 3 hours which means 333,333 kmph.
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Didn't we work out Roshi's speed to be like 17 meters per second?

--------------(100/5.6)----------=17.85
Distance Traveled/Seconds taken =Roshi's running speed

Then compare that to Goku at 416 going 5.5 meters per second, when he should be able to run at 53 meters per second?
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Sorry ANB, but no scans I've seen show Goku running most of the way. Pretty much all of them show him flying, or leaping over large segments of it.
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