Madness

As Chibi says, it never says he was at full power.

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Cyrax

about Mecha-Freeza:

Stronger >>>> Weakers

Namek Freeza (100%) >>>>>>> Mecha-Freeza >> Namek Freeza (50%)

Freeza stated to be stronger than his 50% form. And he never increase his power at maximun in the fight with Trunks. SSJ Goku would kill Freeza (50%) in Namek, But Goku let Freeza increase his power to have a great battle.

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Evil Vegeta

If 50% Freeza could detonate the core of a planet with his attack, you mean to tell me a Freeza that's significantly more powerful then that one can do no more then a little explosion? Since, you know, he was using all of his power?

You'll just ignore it again, though.

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Chibi Mystic Gohan

1) Where exactly is this Daizenshuu quote coming from?
2) Why should we care when the manga facts contradict it?

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Dupe of USSJed

Quote:

"Through mechanization, he had obtained even more gigantic power, but he is completely powerless before Super Saiya-jin Trunks."

Wow I cannot believe none of you can read, this statement is obviously referring to 100% full power mecha Frieza. Sheeeesh.

Ultima, that quote from the Daizenshuu(booooo) does not say what amount of Frieza's power was being used. If it had looked like this

"Through mechanization, he had obtained even more gigantic power, but even at 100% he is completely powerless before Super Saiya-jin Trunks."

Then it would be worth quoting. Hell, you might as well say

"Even with his year in the CoSaT, Goku's base form was no match for Cell"

or even better

"Even with seven years of training, Goku was no match for Buu"

Devilz

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Chibi Mystic Gohan

Are you talking about the Daizenshuu quote? Because I have yet to read that one in Japanese yet.

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Final Ultima

*FACEPALM*!

Freeza stated that he was "new and improved" in the beginning. Later, he states he's more powerful than before. That is in the freakin Manga, do you know what that means he is saying as of RIGHT NOW HE IS MORE POWERFUL THAN HE WAS ON NAMEK (That includes his powered-up form on Namek). This was AFTER Gohans statement which was contradicted by Freeza's statement. The ****ing Daizenshuu states information that is not STATED in the manga, it's SANCTIONED by Toriyama and when the Daizenshuu gives us info that is not present within the manga you take the Daizenshuu's info as well. The Daizenshuu states "Through mechanization, he had obtained even more gigantic power, but he is completely powerless before Super Saiya-jin Trunks." Notice how it states that despite the fact that he is more powerful he is helpless...Do you fanboys know what that means...DESPITE FREEZA'S FULL POWER HE WAS FREAKIN HOPELESS AGAINST TRUNKS WHICH MEANS HE WAS NOT HOLDING BACK. Fuck, It's ignorant in itself to say freeza held back against the very thing that killed him. Freeza was NOT holding back, The Daizenshuu supports this, the anime supports this and the MANGA supports this.

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Evil Vegeta

If 50% Freeza could detonate the core of a planet with his attack, you mean to tell me a Freeza that's significantly more powerful then that one can do no more then a little explosion? Since, you know, he was using all of his power?

Answer this or simply shut-up.

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Chibi Mystic Gohan

NERD RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
Jesus, calm down. It's a children's manga!

All Freeza says is that "I've powered up. I could probably take him myself." That doesn't at all mean he was at full power AT THAT EXACT MOMENT. Like someone already said, if Goku said he had powered up enough to beat Boo (he's talking in base form), does that mean he's as strong as a Super Saiyan 3? No, but when he powers up, he can beat Boo. Just like Freeza thinks he can beat Goku if he powers up. Gohan said he wasn't at full power yet, so he had yet to power up.

AND WHERE DOES YOUR DAIZENSHUU QUOTE COME FROM?

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Majuub

Goku was at his SSJ state I think. Just saying.

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Chibi Mystic Gohan

When? In my example quote?

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Majuub

When you say Goku stated he was strong enough to beat Chibi Buu at full power, you said he was in his base form but he was in his SSJ form I think. Not like it changes anything but just correcting this little mistake.

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Evil Vegeta

No. It was an example of a power increase. Like, if Goku trained in his base form for about a year, he would gain a lot of power, but, it wouldn't be as noticeable if he didn't power-up to SSJ.

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