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Old 06-04-2008   #376 (permalink)
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Lol, the Daizenshuu says Goku has infinite potential and you guys are still arguing about it...? Gohan is only half saiyajin, of course he'll reach a limit.
Unless he's talking about a different quote, it said something in a header like "For the sake of fighting stronger enemies, his ever growing infinite power!!"


I really doubt such a statement is meant to be taken literally. Not that the little bios in the Daizenshuu even mean much to me (I only bought the books because of the concept art and whatnot).

And what do you mean "of course he'll reach a limit"?! It's implied that half-Saiyans are better than full Saiyans in the series.


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@Chibi: So at this point, you're just beating around the bush and realize they will eventually reach the speed of light, regardless of how their speed increases...?


What exactly are you referring to?

Anyway, the fact that Gohan reached a limit tells me that they don't have to reach light speed, among the thousand other reasons I've stated in this thread.
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Damn, that's pretty cool.
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Damn, that's pretty cool.
There's so many "cool" things in this topic that you may need to specify

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Lol, the Daizenshuu says Goku has infinite potential and you guys are still arguing about it...? Gohan is only half saiyajin, of course he'll reach a limit.
I rest my case!!

And No, Freeza did not hold back against a Super Saiya-jin, that in itself is stupid.
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I rest my case!!

And No, Freeza did not hold back against a Super Saiya-jin, that in itself is stupid.
Except he did. The manga itself shows that he did. You are using your assumptions in saying that he didn't!
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I rest my case!!

And No, Freeza did not hold back against a Super Saiya-jin, that in itself is stupid.
Why do you keep ignoring my points?

1) Gohan said Freeza wasn't using all of his power
2) Freeza says that it would take him 30 seconds to power up to 100% when he was at 75% (based on Gohan saying that he could ge "much, much" stronger (he says it twice in Japanese), he could have been lower than 50% for all we know, meaning up to a minute of power up time!
3) Freeza was never shown powering up for 30 seconds, let alone for one second.
4) Freeza never bulked up

ADDRESS THESE POINTS, OR YOU ARE TROLLING
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Except he did. The manga itself shows that he did. You are using your assumptions in saying that he didn't!
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1) Gohan said Freeza wasn't using all of his power
2) Freeza says that it would take him 30 seconds to power up to 100% when he was at 75% (based on Gohan saying that he could ge "much, much" stronger (he says it twice in Japanese), he could have been lower than 50% for all we know, meaning up to a minute of power up time!
3) Freeza was never shown powering up for 30 seconds, let alone for one second.
4) Freeza never bulked up
1.That's bull cause Freeza himself said he was powered up and the Daizenshuu says he was more powerful with his mechanical form THAN Namek freeza.

2. Power-ups don't mean nothing, with your logic Burta and Jece were holding back against Goku cause they didn't have this power-up.
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Freeza never said he was powered up. The Daizenshuu simply said he was more powerful. That has nothing to do with how long it takes him to power up.
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Freeza never said he was powered up. The Daizenshuu simply said he was more powerful. That has nothing to do with how long it takes him to power up.
"Through mechanization, he had obtained even more gigantic power, but he is completely powerless before Super Saiya-jin Trunks."

All of you fail.....

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"Through mechanization, he had obtained even more gigantic power, but he is completely powerless before Super Saiya-jin Trunks."

All of you fail.....

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Not so.

You are ignoring the manga. Sure he had more power, but he could have had more power at 50%. And he did. He never had the chance to go to 100%. If you say he did you are going against the manga and the canon.

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If 50% Freeza could detonate the core of a planet with his attack, you mean to tell me a Freeza that's significantly more powerful then that one can do no more then a little explosion? Since, you know, he was using all of his power?

Why don't you counter this?
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No offense but you guys should stop arguing with Final Ultima, it'll never ever stop, just look at his sig, it should tell you to not step in the ring with him. If you're going to continue then good luck, I'll be on your side.
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I know this already. I don't know why I'm doing it... lol
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Where does Freeza say he "powered-up?" It's another quote you've taken to the edge of literal, really. Freeza stated this: "Since I've grown even more powerful", that's about it.

That'll be like, if Goku gets more powerful in his base form, and says such. How could this awesome new power be significant if he doesn't use his SSJ transformation? Try to be rational, Ultima, instead of dismissing everything you don't believe in. It's stupid.
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Not so.

You are ignoring the manga. Sure he had more power, but he could have had more power at 50%. And he did. He never had the chance to go to 100%. If you say he did you are going against the manga and the canon.

You phail.
You ignored this again.......

"Through mechanization, he had obtained even more gigantic power, but he is completely powerless before Super Saiya-jin Trunks."
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