Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light... - Page 24

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 06-03-2008

You mean the header that talks about Goku's "mugen no pawaa" (unlimited power)? You clearly don't know what an expression is. You take everything too literally.

Anyway, I don't accept a character's statement if they say something they can't possibly know. For instance, people believing that Kuririn is the strongest human because of Yamcha's statement during the Budôkai, when he hasn't seen or sensed Tenshinhan in 10 years. Or, say, Vegeta saying he's stronger than Freeza or Cell when he gets his ass kicked by them.

Final Ultima · 06-04-2008

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Originally Posted by Chibi Mystic Gohan

You mean the header that talks about Goku's "mugen no pawaa" (unlimited power)? You clearly don't know what an expression is. You take everything too literally.

Anyway, I don't accept a character's statement if they say something they can't possibly know. For instance, people believing that Kuririn is the strongest human because of Yamcha's statement during the Budôkai, when he hasn't seen or sensed Tenshinhan in 10 years. Or, say, Vegeta saying he's stronger than Freeza or Cell when he gets his ass kicked by them.

I really don't accept a members statement if they go against canon and can't possibly believe the author's intentions.

Kurrin being the strongest human is canon fact it's supported in the manga and the daizenshuu same with the Saiyajins endless potential.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 06-04-2008

The "endless potential" lines are contradicted by the fact that Gohan didn't get any stronger after the elder Kaiôshin brought him past his limits.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-04-2008

Did he get a chance to increase his power after the mystic boost?

Also, what if Mystic Gohan went Oozaru or Kaoken, would his power increase?

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No, according to this logic they eventually never get faster while we see Vegeta, at 24,000, lucidly superior in speed to Kiwi. And there are several exmaples even if the Boo saga where they get faster simply for having a higher power-level.

It seems you have misinterpreted, what I am saying is that if power increased exactly the same as speed, then Roshi should have done 100 meters in 0.3 seconds.

Final Ultima · 06-04-2008

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Originally Posted by Chibi Mystic Gohan

The "endless potential" lines are contradicted by the fact that Gohan didn't get any stronger after the elder Kaiôshin brought him past his limits.

Not it's not. You continue to ignore Truth.

Evil Vegeta · 06-04-2008

You seem to be the only one ignoring stated facts.

Final Ultima · 06-04-2008

Oh my here's another one who don't like truth...^^^

Evil Vegeta · 06-04-2008

How am I ignoring things that are stated facts? You're the same one who thinks Mecha Freeza was at 100% power.

Final Ultima · 06-04-2008

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How am I ignoring things that are stated facts? You're the same one who thinks Mecha Freeza was at 100% power.

You don't go by facts, all your arguments have shown that.

Anyone who thinks Freeza was holding the **** back against a Super Saiya-jin needs to freakin retire from the internet.

Evil Vegeta · 06-04-2008

Freeza didn't have a chance to power-up at all. So, what you say just doesn't matter, really. He fired one blast, and you say that was his full-power? Don't make me laugh.

Final Ultima · 06-04-2008

Freeza was more powerful on Earth than he was on Namek. The fact that you think freeza held back against a Super Saiya-jin (the very thing that whooped his ass) is automatic fail.

Evil Vegeta · 06-04-2008

What part of "Freeza didn't have a chance to power-up" don't you get? He fired one generic chi-blast at Trunks, then he was sliced in two. He didn't have enough time to increase his power to maximum. Not to mention, no one even talked about Freeza's power increasing so suddenly, and if you believe a beam from a more powerful Freeza could only do that amount of damage to the enviroment, then you're even more clueless.

Mecha Freeza without being battle ready is not more powerful then 100% Freeza when he fought SSJ Goku. Therefore, your notion is incorrect.

Dupe of USSJed · 06-04-2008

I will have to agree with EV on this one, its like in the Goku VS Frieza fight, Frieza needed time to \\\POWER UP/// and Goku could have just killed him in one hit but let him increase to full power. And also Ginyu could have killed Goku when Jeice helped him, but he let him go and power up.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 06-04-2008

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Originally Posted by Final Ultima

Not it's not. You continue to ignore Truth.

What are you talking about? Boo nearly beats Gohan to death, but Dende heals him. Boo then says that Gohan hasn't increased his strength at all, he's only back to the way he was before.

Madness · 06-04-2008

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Originally Posted by Chibi Mystic Gohan

What are you talking about? Boo nearly beats Gohan to death, but Dende heals him. Boo then says that Gohan hasn't increased his strength at all, he's only back to the way he was before.

It's time to use Chibi's most hated word again!

ZENKAI!

Simply put, Gohan didn't recieve one after being healed by Dende. That proves that Saiyans do not have unlimited potential.

06-03-2008	#346 (permalink)
Chibi Mystic Gohan (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Surrounded by dickgirls Posts: 5,448 Rep Power: 145	Re: Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light... You mean the header that talks about Goku's "mugen no pawaa" (unlimited power)? You clearly don't know what an expression is. You take everything too literally. Anyway, I don't accept a character's statement if they say something they can't possibly know. For instance, people believing that Kuririn is the strongest human because of Yamcha's statement during the Budôkai, when he hasn't seen or sensed Tenshinhan in 10 years. Or, say, Vegeta saying he's stronger than Freeza or Cell when he gets his ass kicked by them. __________________ "Words don't exist so that we can tell the truth; they exist so that we can conceal the truth" - ZOMBIEPOWDER.* Volume 02*

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Chibi Mystic Gohan (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Surrounded by dickgirls Posts: 5,448 Rep Power: 145	Re: Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light... The "endless potential" lines are contradicted by the fact that Gohan didn't get any stronger after the elder Kaiôshin brought him past his limits. __________________ "Words don't exist so that we can tell the truth; they exist so that we can conceal the truth" - ZOMBIEPOWDER.* Volume 02*

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Final Ultima (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,059 Rep Power: 0	Re: Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light... Oh my here's another one who don't like truth...^^^ __________________ AKIRA TORIYAMA:"DRAGONBALL, IT'S THE ANIME AND THE MANGA!" *THE TRUTH GETS NEGGED, BRING ON THE RED!!*

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Final Ultima (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,059 Rep Power: 0	Re: Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light... Freeza was more powerful on Earth than he was on Namek. The fact that you think freeza held back against a Super Saiya-jin (the very thing that whooped his ass) is automatic fail. __________________ AKIRA TORIYAMA:"DRAGONBALL, IT'S THE ANIME AND THE MANGA!" *THE TRUTH GETS NEGGED, BRING ON THE RED!!*

06-04-2008	#358 (permalink)
Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,086 Rep Power: 175	Re: Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light... I will have to agree with EV on this one, its like in the Goku VS Frieza fight, Frieza needed time to \\\POWER UP/// and Goku could have just killed him in one hit but let him increase to full power. And also Ginyu could have killed Goku when Jeice helped him, but he let him go and power up.