Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light... - Page 17

Madness · 05-17-2008

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Originally Posted by Devilz

Isn't that what you do all the time?

Win.

He'll come back denying it but w/e. It made me lol

Astner · 05-17-2008

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Originally Posted by Chibi Mystic Gohan

Couldn't time machines theoretically have a feature that allowed the user to zero in on a specific dimension? Therefore, they would be able to return to their exact point of origin. I think I've heard of such a thing being utilized in science fiction before.

Not a feature that isn't connected to the fifth dimension. And there is no such thing in our 4 dimensional perspective.

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Originally Posted by Final Ultima

I love the way people make these claims...WITH ABSOLUTELY NO FACTS TO BACK THEMSELVES UP WITH.

d = (v / sqrt( 1 - v^2 / c^2)) * (t / sqrt( 1- v^2 / c^2))

Where d, is distance, v is velocity and t, is time.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 05-17-2008

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Originally Posted by Astner

Not a feature that isn't connected to the fifth dimension. And there is no such thing in our 4 dimensional perspective.

If you say so. But regardless, it's a science fiction concept, so it can be overlooked.

~~Final Ultima~~ · 05-17-2008

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Originally Posted by Devilz

Isn't that what you do all the time?

*Wash rinse repeat*

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Originally Posted by Final Ultima

I love the way people make these claims...WITH ABSOLUTELY NO FACTS TO BACK THEMSELVES UP WITH.

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Originally Posted by Astner

d = (v / sqrt( 1 - v^2 / c^2)) * (t / sqrt( 1- v^2 / c^2))

Where d, is distance, v is velocity and t, is time.

Oh yeah, that proves it. Now show me where the comic implements this.

Astner · 05-17-2008

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Originally Posted by Final Ultima

Oh yeah, that proves it. Now show me where the comic implements this.

When time and movement were presented somewhere around the first panel of the first volume.

**Majuub** · 05-17-2008

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Originally Posted by Astner

When time and movement were presented somewhere around the first panel of the first volume.

In fact, just by flying DBZ characters challenge the laws of gravity, I don't see why they couldn't challenge the laws of space and time, Trunks traveled through time...Buu ripped a dimensional hole, so did Gotenks, Goku can teleport somwhere instantly and that somewhat makes him faster than light...

Madness · 05-17-2008

Okay, two points there.

A. they aren't denying gravity, they're using propulsion to levitate.
B. Teleportation isn't travel.

~~Final Ultima~~ · 05-17-2008

Dragonball characters use Ki to levitate..It's called Bukuujutsu!

Madness · 05-17-2008

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Originally Posted by Final Ultima

Dragonball characters use Ki to levitate..It's called Bukuujutsu!

...and they propel it out of their body as a form of levitation.

Chariking · 05-18-2008

I dont remember but didnt Farmer with shotgun say that Raditz was faster than light?

And Goku vs. Ginyu Force

He didnt appear to be moving but he still was.

And what about Instant Transmission?

Madness · 05-18-2008

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Originally Posted by Chariking

I dont remember, but didnt Farmer with shotgun say that Radditz was faster than light?

No, stupid dub line. Radditz says it in the dub, but it's not canon.

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Originally Posted by Chariking

And Goku vs. Ginyu Force, he didn't appear to be moving but he still was.

And? Just means the Force couldn't percieve his movements.

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And what about Instant Transmission?

It's not travelling, it's teleportation.

**Majuub** · 05-19-2008

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Originally Posted by Madness

No, stupid dub line. Radditz says it in the dub, but it's not canon.

And? Just means the Force couldn't percieve his movements.

It's not travelling, it's teleportation.

Still, I don't think anything can get from a place to another faster than light. The atoms don't just dissapear and reappear somwhere else, they must move in order to get to a certain location. The movement is just not visible but still present, which makes it a movement faster than light.

~~Final Ultima~~ · 05-19-2008

It's called "Shunkan Idou...Instantaneous movement!" Not Instant transmission.

Madness · 05-19-2008

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Originally Posted by Majuub

Still, I don't think anything can get from a place to another faster than light. The atoms don't just dissapear and reappear somwhere else, they must move in order to get to a certain location. The movement is just not visible but still present, which makes it a movement faster than light.

Teleportation doesn't involve any travel. That's what Shunkan Idou is.

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Originally Posted by Final Ultima

It's called "Shunkan Idou...Instantaneous movement!" Not Instant transmission.

Thanks. That helps prove my point.

Vagrant Lustoid 2 · 05-19-2008

Movement is never instantaneous, since movement is the action of progressing from one point to another, and that period of progression cannot by definition be instantaneous. So it's either one or the other, and I suspect it's more instant than movement. Especially since Goku uses it to transcend a dimensional boundary to reach Kai's planet.

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