Astner

I simply proved that none of them could reach lightspeed. Based on common sense.

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Madness

But we have accelerating something past the speed of light. Granted, it was a tiny particle, but it actually happened.

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Final Ultima

Bwhahwhahwhaha, common sense says your not the Author.

I like how everyone's assuming that light moves at the same speed in the real world as it does in the Dragon World.

Where a damn dog is the king.

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ANB

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Devilz is right Speed is not directly proportional to PL. Burter and USSJ Trunks are two examples. Broly is really stronger but he hasn't a great speed.

Okay, so twice as strong doesn't mean twice as fast. But since being even LESS than twice as strong makes you faster than my theory stands. With a difference of 1.33 Vegeta was unbelievably faster than Kiwi; dodging a barrage of point-blank chi-blasts unscathed.

-USSJ2 was stated by Cell to decrease speed because it had to do with the nature of the form. It forces their muscles to get bigger and decreases the speed. You're assuming anyone as strong as Trunks would be slower...which isn't true. It was explicitly stated in the manga it had to do with the nature of the form.

-Broly is filler and even that example doesn't work. He did not loose speed.

-Ginyu's statement is suspicious of filler...what chapter does he say that?

-Nothing is said about a speed-loss for SSJ3.

-Lastly, stop talking about what's "impossible", Astner.

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Madness

Yes because having a dog as king means all the physics has changed. Give me a break. We've discussed these matters before. Stop resorting to these arguments when you're getting owned.

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Astner

No, the micro-wave particle's speed was just some fancy use of cluster-movement. If you take the particle itslef, in a race against a photon the photon will win.
Matter cannot travle faster than light, or even at lightspeed. For reasons mentioned above.

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Chibi Mystic Gohan

Whose to say that Vegeta had to be twice as fast as Kiwi to do that, though? We don't have any statements regarding speed differences in the series, so regardless of all of you guesswork, it's still just that, guesswork.

And I don't even watch the anime, good sir. It's chapter 273. I don't know what chapter that is in the VIZ volumes, but it should be Dragon Ball Z volume 7, I think.



Literally, "Butta here's speed is number one in the universe." This is Captain Ginyu talking, so, in terms of speed, Goku>Butta>Ginyu, while, in terms of power, Ginyu>Goku>Butta.

This kind of changes your perception of speed in Dragon Ball, doesn't it?

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- ZOMBIEPOWDER. Volume 02

Final Ultima

"owned?" Show me where I got pwned in this thread?
Your pwning yourself by adding poison to a children's comic. How do you bring HEAVY physics in a world where aliens and dinosaurs exist? We just seen a character run circles around Earth, now mind you, since your so sure real world physics exists in this series what is the freakin size of Dragonball's Earth? We have a character with THREE eye's for God sakes and yes a Dog being king goes against natural science.

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Final Ultima

Go get the posts.
I never get pwned cause I always use facts.

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Evil Vegeta

Yeah. Didn't you reference the anime battle between Mecha Freeza & Trunks, and said that proves he was at full-power, even though it was never shown in the manga?

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Astner

Reported for flaming.

Back on topic. To assume that concepts that havn't been mentioned to differ actually do is highly speculative. And even if the lightspeed varied, it would still make them slower than light.

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Madness

We've been over this several times, and I personally cannot be bothered to restate the things that we've spoken of several times to someone who cannot be bothered to read back and find it.

Anyway, I shall continue to use these "heavy physics" until you find conclusive proof that it doesn't exist in Dragon-verse.

Wasn't really a flame. More of a dismissal, and I think someone dismissing you hurts more than a flame. Anyway, I digress.

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Final Ultima

Hell No.

Do as you like, but people in this forum THINKING/ASSUMING that a character can or can't do something because their physics book says so, is totally WRONG.

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Madness

No it isn't, because physics says so. These aspects are never proved to be wrong, so we can safely assume that they apply in Dragon-verse.

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Final Ultima

I am still asking you to show me WHERE? Evil Vegeta couldn't...Talk is cheap.

WTF? Wrong, do you hear yourself? Your arrogance? You Madness DID NOT MAKE THE STORY! So don't assume everything You expected is what Toriyama expected, Good God.

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