SSJ Zenkai yes or no? - Page 7

Madness · 05-11-2008

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Originally Posted by uki1234

Ofc the power levels are wrong. Goku can't be at 3000. But the difference in % is what matters, and its constant, no matter how much the 1 unit in kiri metar is in real power levels.

Unless the percentage is different

Frankly, the Kiri Meter PROVES that the multiplier system doesn't work, so you've shot yourself in the foot there.

uki1234 · 05-11-2008

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Originally Posted by Madness

Frankly, the Kiri Meter PROVES that the multiplier system doesn't work

How so?

Madness · 05-11-2008

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Originally Posted by uki1234

How so?

Because it proves that there isn't a 50 times multiplier.

Now I know people say "the multiplier changed!" but that doesn't make any sense. You can't say it changes because it's been disproved. That's so stupid IMHO.

gad_is_here · 05-11-2008

If the multiplier didn't change, then it would make the bases very weak

Madness · 05-11-2008

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Originally Posted by gad_is_here

If the multiplier didn't change, then it would make the bases very weak

Unless there is no multiplier at all!

The Kiri Meter proves it doesn't exist as a principle.

gad_is_here · 05-11-2008

If you're saying that the increase in power is completely random, then you may as well be right

uki1234 · 05-11-2008

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Originally Posted by Madness

Because it proves that there isn't a 50 times multiplier.

You are right. There is only 3x multiplier.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 05-11-2008

Which doesn't make sense with Goku vs. Freeza and disproves the Super Saiyan "Zenkai" even more...

Devilz · 05-11-2008

There's nothing wrong with multipliers decreasing, well technically they don't decrease at all, they just change completely because that's how the storyline goes.

Madness · 05-11-2008

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Originally Posted by Devilz

There's nothing wrong with multipliers decreasing, well technically they don't decrease at all, they just change completely because that's how the storyline goes.

Well yes, but as a technical theory, they don't work.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 05-11-2008

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Originally Posted by Devilz

There's nothing wrong with multipliers decreasing, well technically they don't decrease at all, they just change completely because that's how the storyline goes.

Then there's nothing wrong with the additive theory, either. Any "mistakes" it creates are simply do to how the storyline went after the Freeza saga. Not that I've actually seen any legitimate mistakes mentioned by any of you.

Madness · 05-11-2008

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Originally Posted by Chibi Mystic Gohan

Then there's nothing wrong with the additive theory, either. Any "mistakes" it creates are simply do to how the storyline went after the Freeza saga. Not that I've actually seen any legitimate mistakes mentioned by any of you.

The "mistakes" were made by me because I never thought my list out properly.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 05-11-2008

I'm sure that's probably why. I know I could easily produce a list, but I'm sort of retired from power level lists. They're rather arbitrary these days. Plus, I've forgotten a lot about the Dragon Ball characters' strength relations. I knew a lot more in like 2004, when I actually did power levels lists all the time.

Madness · 05-11-2008

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Originally Posted by Chibi Mystic Gohan

I'm sure that's probably why. I know I could easily produce a list, but I'm sort of retired from power level lists. They're rather arbitrary these days. Plus, I've forgotten a lot about the Dragon Ball characters' strength relations. I knew a lot more in like 2004, when I actually did power levels lists all the time.

I'm trying to do one, but it's harder than I realised lol

uki1234 · 05-11-2008

I've just posted a power level list in my first comment, which shows about how 3x SSJ multiplier would work, so feel free to comment about it.

05-11-2008	#94 (permalink)
gad_is_here (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: I go with the naked ladies[;)] Posts: 2,139 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 51	Re: SSJ Zenkai yes or no? If the multiplier didn't change, then it would make the bases very weak __________________ Nobody's perfect and since I'm nobody... Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. Avoid fruits and nuts. You are what you eat. Jim Davis All true wisdom is found on T-shirts. Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

05-11-2008	#96 (permalink)
gad_is_here (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: I go with the naked ladies[;)] Posts: 2,139 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 51	Re: SSJ Zenkai yes or no? If you're saying that the increase in power is completely random, then you may as well be right __________________ Nobody's perfect and since I'm nobody... Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. Avoid fruits and nuts. You are what you eat. Jim Davis All true wisdom is found on T-shirts. Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

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Chibi Mystic Gohan (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Surrounded by dickgirls Posts: 5,315 Rep Power: 126	Re: SSJ Zenkai yes or no? Which doesn't make sense with Goku vs. Freeza and disproves the Super Saiyan "Zenkai" even more... __________________ "Words don't exist so that we can tell the truth; they exist so that we can conceal the truth" - ZOMBIEPOWDER.* Volume 02*

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Chibi Mystic Gohan (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Surrounded by dickgirls Posts: 5,315 Rep Power: 126	Re: SSJ Zenkai yes or no? I'm sure that's probably why. I know I could easily produce a list, but I'm sort of retired from power level lists. They're rather arbitrary these days. Plus, I've forgotten a lot about the Dragon Ball characters' strength relations. I knew a lot more in like 2004, when I actually did power levels lists all the time. __________________ "Words don't exist so that we can tell the truth; they exist so that we can conceal the truth" - ZOMBIEPOWDER.* Volume 02*

05-11-2008	#105 (permalink)
uki1234 (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 1,204 Rep Power: 11	Re: SSJ Zenkai yes or no? I've just posted a power level list in my first comment, which shows about how 3x SSJ multiplier would work, so feel free to comment about it.

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