Chi / Ki Question

**Zer0** · 04-21-2008

When was it first mentioned in the manga?

Darkprince410 · 04-22-2008

I seem to recall it first being mentioned when Kame-sen'nin was gathering ki for the Kamehameha to put out the fire surrounding Gyuu Mao's castle.

gad_is_here · 04-22-2008

Don't remember

Darkprince410 · 04-22-2008

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Originally Posted by gad_is_here

Don't remember

There's really no reason you should have made a post like this, since it offered absolutely no productive information to the topic.

Vagrant Lustoid 2 · 04-22-2008

Post count FTW?

Seriously though, I'm pretty sure it was Roshi's Kamehameha. I don't know if we'd seen energy attacks at all before this point, and I'm fairly certain that this is when ki was mentioned, due to the attack relying on the latent ki of the body.

SaiyajinPerfection · 04-22-2008

I agree with Darkprince. I seem to recall that the first time it was mentioned was when Roshi introduced the Kamehameha in chapter 12 or 13 of the manga. Yamcha explains to Puar how the fabled technique at that time (the Kamehameha) was stated to work, explaining that the user gathers their latent energy into their hands, and unleashes all of it in a single burst.

**Zer0** · 05-16-2008

Revival.

Since I started re-reading early Dragonball I was able to find the quote for myself (even though it was paraphrased by SP) "Concentrating all his dormant energy...into a single focused blast!!". Rather than create a new topic I'll just ask it here. Its clear that Yamcha is referring to Chi but, my question is, has Chi been referred to as "energy" after this and when was the term Chi first used? The "life force?" that Cell refers to when draining people, is that just another way of saying Chi or is it something different? Has that been used elsewhere in the Manga?

Final Ultima · 05-17-2008

Ki is the comprehensive power an individual has, like Battle Power, life force, and the like. Used primarily with a nuance that indicates Battle Power, you could say that the higher a person's ki is, the stronger they are. A boosted ki emanates from the body like an aura. It cannot be seen by eyes, but proficient warriors are able feel it.

ANB · 05-17-2008

Gohan told Videl that chi was "Latent Power". They often just say "I'm out of energy" in a general sense and become fatigued when they run out.

**Zer0** · 05-17-2008

C'mon don't tell me Goku's explanation of the Kaio-Ken was the earliest mention of Chi.

Tyro · 05-17-2008

Dragonball volume 14:

Goku: "I almost can't sense your ki..."

There's probably something before this. I know Goku said he could "feel" the people in the houses at Oolong's terrorized town, but "chi"/"ki" was never mentioned.

**Zer0** · 05-17-2008

Ah thank you Tyro. Can you shed any light on this "Life Energy"? Is it just another way of saying Chi (this is very important)?

ANB · 05-17-2008

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Originally Posted by Zer0

Ah thank you Tyro. Can you shed any light on this "Life Energy"? Is it just another way of saying Chi (this is very important)?

The wording of Gohan's statment was that "Life energy/Latent power" is basically what chi is.

She didn't know what it was and Gohan said "Oh, you guys would call it 'Latent-power'...". We know it's a life-force because they're dead without it, and the futher it diminishes the more they lag in fights.

**Zer0** · 05-17-2008

You don't know what you just helped accomplish. Ha hahaha, ha hahaha.

ANB · 05-18-2008

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Originally Posted by Zer0

You don't know what you just helped accomplish. Ha hahaha, ha hahaha.

You scared the dog-shit out of me...

One last thing: There are "good", "evil", and "Regular" chi. When Kuririn was about to throw the Genki-Dama, Kaio told him to "feel the evil chi". Nail further emphasizes this when he tells everyone (about the Ginyu Force) "He [Vegeta] may be telling the truth. I do sense five evil powers,".

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Darkprince410 (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ohio, United States Posts: 2,417 Rep Power: 15	Re: Chi / Ki Question I seem to recall it first being mentioned when Kame-sen'nin was gathering ki for the Kamehameha to put out the fire surrounding Gyuu Mao's castle. __________________

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gad_is_here (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: India Posts: 1,555 Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 4	Re: Chi / Ki Question Don't remember __________________ Feed me rep, or feed me Pizza

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Vagrant Lustoid 2 (13) Great Ape Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 278 Rep Power: 2	Re: Chi / Ki Question Post count FTW? Seriously though, I'm pretty sure it was Roshi's Kamehameha. I don't know if we'd seen energy attacks at all before this point, and I'm fairly certain that this is when ki was mentioned, due to the attack relying on the latent ki of the body.

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SaiyajinPerfection (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Beyond the Internet Posts: 1,266 Blog Entries: 7 Rep Power: 9	Re: Chi / Ki Question I agree with Darkprince. I seem to recall that the first time it was mentioned was when Roshi introduced the Kamehameha in chapter 12 or 13 of the manga. Yamcha explains to Puar how the fabled technique at that time (the Kamehameha) was stated to work, explaining that the user gathers their latent energy into their hands, and unleashes all of it in a single burst. __________________ Formerly the member demonkingpiccolo "Wit beyond measure, is a man's greatest treasure"

05-16-2008	#7 (permalink)
Zer0 Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hn, None of your business Posts: 8,610 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 37	Re: Chi / Ki Question Revival. Since I started re-reading early Dragonball I was able to find the quote for myself (even though it was paraphrased by SP) "Concentrating all his dormant energy...into a single focused *blast*!!". Rather than create a new topic I'll just ask it here. Its clear that Yamcha is referring to Chi but, my question is, has Chi been referred to as "energy" after this and when was the term Chi first used? The "life force?" that Cell refers to when draining people, is that just another way of saying Chi or is it something different? Has that been used elsewhere in the Manga? __________________ \|Work in Progress Signature\| \|Bleach Power Levels\| \|Movie Power Levels\| \|Databook Statistics\|

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Final Ultima (17) Super Saiyan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 746 Rep Power: 0	Re: Chi / Ki Question Ki is the comprehensive power an individual has, like Battle Power, life force, and the like. Used primarily with a nuance that indicates Battle Power, you could say that the higher a person's ki is, the stronger they are. A boosted ki emanates from the body like an aura. It cannot be seen by eyes, but proficient warriors are able feel it. __________________ AKIRA TORIYAMA:"DRAGONBALL, IT'S THE ANIME AND THE MANGA!"

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ANB (23) Final Warrior Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Natives are restless... Posts: 2,641 Rep Power: 14	Re: Chi / Ki Question Gohan told Videl that chi was "Latent Power". They often just say "I'm out of energy" in a general sense and become fatigued when they run out. __________________ Were they created by nothing? Or were they themselves the creators (of themselves)? Or did they create heaven and earth? Nay, but they are not sure. (52:35-36)

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Zer0 Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hn, None of your business Posts: 8,610 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 37	Re: Chi / Ki Question C'mon don't tell me Goku's explanation of the Kaio-Ken was the earliest mention of Chi. __________________ \|Work in Progress Signature\| \|Bleach Power Levels\| \|Movie Power Levels\| \|Databook Statistics\|

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Tyro (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Somerset, Kentucky Posts: 1,014 Rep Power: 6	Re: Chi / Ki Question Dragonball volume 14: Goku: "I almost can't sense your ki..." There's probably something before this. I know Goku said he could "feel" the people in the houses at Oolong's terrorized town, but "chi"/"ki" was never mentioned.

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Zer0 Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hn, None of your business Posts: 8,610 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 37	Re: Chi / Ki Question Ah thank you Tyro. Can you shed any light on this "Life Energy"? Is it just another way of saying Chi (this is very important)? __________________ \|Work in Progress Signature\| \|Bleach Power Levels\| \|Movie Power Levels\| \|Databook Statistics\|

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Zer0 Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hn, None of your business Posts: 8,610 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 37	Re: Chi / Ki Question You don't know what you just helped accomplish. Ha hahaha, ha hahaha. __________________ \|Work in Progress Signature\| \|Bleach Power Levels\| \|Movie Power Levels\| \|Databook Statistics\|